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Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:42 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:What about P.O.D.?
Of course
They seem like the most nu-metal band of all.

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:42 pm
by Jorge
BurtReynolds wrote:What about P.O.D.?
Oh yeah. Also, lol:


Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:43 pm
by BurtReynolds
There was a lot of Christianity running through some nu-metal now that I think about it...

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:44 pm
by Jorge
Speaking of

Was Creed nu-metal?

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:44 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:44 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:46 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:lol at Nu Metal was a "movement"
It was. It was a specific sound and style that had accompanying fashion and encompassed a lot of bands.
I guess when I think of "movement" I think of "ethos," and I don't see any particular ethos to most of these bands beyond getting paid (SOAD notwithstanding). It would be like calling hair metal a movement.

Like, I consider the DIY/Michael Azerrad bands more of a movement, even though they sounded (and often looked) nothing alike.

But whatever, I'm just nitpicking.
But what is art, really?

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:47 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:48 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:lol at Nu Metal was a "movement"
It was. It was a specific sound and style that had accompanying fashion and encompassed a lot of bands.
I guess when I think of "movement" I think of "ethos," and I don't see any particular ethos to most of these bands beyond getting paid (SOAD notwithstanding). It would be like calling hair metal a movement.

Like, I consider the DIY/Michael Azerrad bands more of a movement, even though they sounded (and often looked) nothing alike.

But whatever, I'm just nitpicking.
I think there was an ethos. It was quite anti-classics like The Beatles and whatnot. They didn't revere the obligatory bands you were supposed to. That and the whole trailer trash hero thing. I hesitate to say blue collar. They were whatever is below that.

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:49 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:Were any of them marketing the trailer trash angle beyond Kid Rock?
Florida is basically a trailer park. I assumed when they celebrated their home state, they were celebrating trailer parks.

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:52 pm
by Kevin Davis
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Nu Metal is more specific than just rap + rock/metal. RATM doesn’t sound Nu at all. It’d be like calling Pearl Jam post-grunge because they influenced Staind.
I wouldn't call PJ post-grunge but I might call Staind grunge. What is post-grunge really? Just grunge that came out after its cultural moment?

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:53 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:54 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Kevin Davis wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Nu Metal is more specific than just rap + rock/metal. RATM doesn’t sound Nu at all. It’d be like calling Pearl Jam post-grunge because they influenced Staind.
I wouldn't call PJ post-grunge but I might call Staind grunge. What is post-grunge really? Just grunge that came out after its cultural moment?
They’re definitely not grunge. Post-grunge has a totally different sound.

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:54 pm
by Jorge
Post-malone

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:56 pm
by BurtReynolds
Post grunge was just watered down AiC with a bit of Pearl Jam and late Metallica.

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 10:59 pm
by Jorge
Post-grunge in three songs






Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 11:00 pm
by LoathedVermin72
What about Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie? Sure, they’re probably industrial metal mixed with alternative metal, it they really seem to toe the Nu line. Especially with how hooky a lot of their songs are.

Re: Were They Nu-Metal?

Posted: Tue June 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:What about Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie? Sure, they’re probably industrial metal mixed with alternative metal, it they really seem to toe the Nu line. Especially with how hooky a lot of their songs are.
Too theatrical for me.