Red Mosquito

bada wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

turned2black wrote:

Strat wrote:

turned2black wrote:I would see if a there is a recording of the '92 PHX Lollapalooza show where Ed and Chris Cornell started an impromptu set on a side stage. I remember it being pretty amazing, but I was also stoned out of my fucking mind. I would like to hear it again unfucked up.

Its an easter egg on the pj20dvd i believe!

That's pretty funny....full on old school Eddie....the faces, the super heavy yarrrrrwl.....the cheeks.....

the inspiring awesomeness.

it's okay guys. you can remember how pure you used to be before the internet devoured your last shred of aching earnestness. RIP youth

I wonder if we can pinpoint the exact show, or even the exact moment where Early Eddie died.

Early Eddie is detectable up through 1996, though in concentrated doses. By 1998 he's gone pretty much for good.

I think something happened when he went into hiding, something that was gone forever by the time he surflaced.

theplatypus wrote:I wonder if we can pinpoint the exact show, or even the exact moment where Early Eddie died.

drinking on a rooftop w/ bruce springsteen. 2004.

edit: also, that video's from pj20?

Also, it was hot as fuck that day and Eddie is still wearing that fucking jacket.

A lot of early Eddie was already gone when they showed up at the 93 VMA's for Animal and RITFW. That was a markedly different frontman. He'd cut his hair, put on a few pounds and just stood at the mic. No jumping from the rafters. A man in retreat.

(ftr, some of what i just wrote are discarded early lyrics for I'm Open)

turned2black wrote:Also, it was hot as fuck that day and Eddie is still wearing that fucking jacket.

like a boss

Kevin Davis wrote:Early Eddie is detectable up through 1996, though in concentrated doses. By 1998 he's gone pretty much for good.

I think something happened when he went into hiding, something that was gone forever by the time he surflaced.

I blame it on the ecstasy..

I don't think it's a coincidence that Eddie went from goofy to tortured not too long after Cobain started talking shit. There were a lot of dumb rules back then.

I'd definitely do a run of proper vinyl releases.

With the early live stuff, I'd do what they're likely doing...Sit on it til they wanna cash some huge checks.

bada wrote:I don't think it's a coincidence that Eddie went from goofy to tortured not too long after Cobain started talking shit. There were a lot of dumb rules back then.

LOL

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I'd definitely do a run of proper vinyl releases.

With the early live stuff, I'd do what they're likely doing...Sit on it til they wanna cash some huge checks.

If I were them, I would strike now before they lose any more of their die-hard fans from their pre-2000 days.

I'd wanna hear the studio cover they did of "Touch Me I'm Sick"

evenslow wrote:A lot of early Eddie was already gone when they showed up at the 93 VMA's for Animal and RITFW. That was a markedly different frontman. He'd cut his hair, put on a few pounds and just stood at the mic. No jumping from the rafters. A man in retreat.

(ftr, some of what i just wrote are discarded early lyrics for I'm Open)

I was thinking about this a few days ago when I looked up the "Fast Wash" they played on New Years '92. Even by then, you can see a shift in Eddie. He wasn't as reserved and withdrawn as he became in '93, but the "fuck you" attitude and unbridled anger was really starting to surface as early as then, compared to his more fun-loving wild 91-92 attitude.

stonefury wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I'd definitely do a run of proper vinyl releases.

With the early live stuff, I'd do what they're likely doing...Sit on it til they wanna cash some huge checks.

If I were them, I would strike now before they lose any more of their die-hard fans from their pre-2000 days.

I think a huge live backlog release would just as likely push die hard fans over the edge as it would bring them back in. Alot of the ones that leave point to the sellout-ish type stuff as much as they do the music. I think most are so jaded that it would be viewed as a cash in as much as it would be a "we're doing it for the fans" thing.

Oh, Jimmy wrote:

stonefury wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I'd definitely do a run of proper vinyl releases.

With the early live stuff, I'd do what they're likely doing...Sit on it til they wanna cash some huge checks.

If I were them, I would strike now before they lose any more of their die-hard fans from their pre-2000 days.

I think a huge live backlog release would just as likely push die hard fans over the edge as it would bring them back in. Alot of the ones that leave point to the sellout-ish type stuff as much as they do the music. I think most are so jaded that it would be viewed as a cash in as much as it would be a "we're doing it for the fans" thing.

most fans on RM or most fans in general?

warehouse wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:

stonefury wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I'd definitely do a run of proper vinyl releases.

With the early live stuff, I'd do what they're likely doing...Sit on it til they wanna cash some huge checks.

If I were them, I would strike now before they lose any more of their die-hard fans from their pre-2000 days.

I think a huge live backlog release would just as likely push die hard fans over the edge as it would bring them back in. Alot of the ones that leave point to the sellout-ish type stuff as much as they do the music. I think most are so jaded that it would be viewed as a cash in as much as it would be a "we're doing it for the fans" thing.

most fans on RM or most fans in general?

The pre-2000 die hards.

I don't think most newer fans have a concept of selling out or how big of a deal it used to be to most serious music fans.

Oh, Jimmy wrote:

warehouse wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:

stonefury wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I'd definitely do a run of proper vinyl releases.

With the early live stuff, I'd do what they're likely doing...Sit on it til they wanna cash some huge checks.

If I were them, I would strike now before they lose any more of their die-hard fans from their pre-2000 days.

I think a huge live backlog release would just as likely push die hard fans over the edge as it would bring them back in. Alot of the ones that leave point to the sellout-ish type stuff as much as they do the music. I think most are so jaded that it would be viewed as a cash in as much as it would be a "we're doing it for the fans" thing.

most fans on RM or most fans in general?

The pre-2000 die hards.

I don't think most newer fans have a concept of selling out or how big of a deal it used to be to most serious music fans.

i get what you are saying, but as a pre-2000 die hard, i have to disagree. ive been waiting for them to release pre 2000 shows since they started releasing 2000 shows. im also an adult now and think the idea of "selling out" is absurd.

warehouse wrote:im also an adult now and think the idea of "selling out" is absurd.

So is needing to have 16 different live versions of Teenage Rage by Eddie Vedder and the Previously Mads.

McParadigm wrote:

warehouse wrote:im also an adult now and think the idea of "selling out" is absurd.

So is needing to have 16 different live versions of Teenage Rage by Eddie Vedder and the Previously Mads.

agreed.