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Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 4:10 pm
by Kevin Davis
numbers wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:I haven't been able to get general sale tickets since 2014, and even then I couldn't get them for the show I wanted (Moline) and had to settle for another one (St. Louis). I eventually got Moline tickets from Stubhub, and really enjoyed both shows, but the ticketing piece was a pain.

Their ticket prices are expensive as is, there is no way I could justify them if I had to factor in the additional cost of the 10C membership (which essentially gets you nothing else of value). Not for a band in the twilight of their career who I've already seen multiple times.
Isnt the 10C membership 20 bucks? You are paying alot more than 20 extra if you go through stubhub.
I paid $100 for Moline on Stubhub, the day before the show. I have a hard time paying even that much for a ticket, but it was pretty close to face value so I didn't stress too much over it.

If the 10C guaranteed you tickets it might be a different story, but in my experience it guarantees nothing and provides very limited access otherwise. Plus there are years when the band doesn't come anywhere near me. Not worth even $20 to me (though I feel like I paid more the one year I joined).

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 4:12 pm
by verb_to_trust
Kevin Davis wrote:
numbers wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:I haven't been able to get general sale tickets since 2014, and even then I couldn't get them for the show I wanted (Moline) and had to settle for another one (St. Louis). I eventually got Moline tickets from Stubhub, and really enjoyed both shows, but the ticketing piece was a pain.

Their ticket prices are expensive as is, there is no way I could justify them if I had to factor in the additional cost of the 10C membership (which essentially gets you nothing else of value). Not for a band in the twilight of their career who I've already seen multiple times.
Isnt the 10C membership 20 bucks? You are paying alot more than 20 extra if you go through stubhub.
I paid $100 for Moline on Stubhub, the day before the show. I have a hard time paying even that much for a ticket, but it was pretty close to face value so I didn't stress too much over it.

If the 10C guaranteed you tickets it might be a different story, but in my experience it guarantees nothing and provides very limited access otherwise. Plus there are years when the band doesn't come anywhere near me. Not worth even $20 to me (though I feel like I paid more the one year I joined).
We took the exact same approach on this matter.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 4:23 pm
by verb_to_trust
Basically, there is no reason to be "in it for the tickets". Saying that is just a defense mechanism for your inner 15 year old who still wants to love this band.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 4:39 pm
by Bi_3
verb_to_trust wrote:Basically, there is no reason to be "in it for the tickets". Saying that is just a defense mechanism for your inner 15 year old who still wants to love this band.
In it for the tickets, but my 10c number is pretty good, so it makes a difference.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 4:45 pm
by numbers
I dunno, for the Fenway shows it was pretty hard to get tickets outside of 10C without paying a huge markup, but maybe that's my inner 15 year old talking.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 5:21 pm
by Kevin Davis
Yeah, after flunking out of the general sale, I checked for Wrigley 2018 tickets a few times and the prices were insane every time. Maybe they came down the day of the show as they tend to, but I had lost interest at that point.

In general I have a hard time paying what major attractions like Pearl Jam charge for tickets, any additional hassle like the 10C fees, lottery, not to mention having to fight traffic/parking around a baseball stadium, is just extra deterrent. I went and saw Bill Frisell last year for like $25, we parked in a free lot outside the venue and sat 5 feet away from him. It might just be my inner 55 year-old talking, but that type of thing is much more my speed these days.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 5:39 pm
by gardenparty
I'm in it for the tickets.
I receive front 10 rows for every show i win. Well worth the $20 a year.
Even if i only end up seeing the band once every few years.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 6:29 pm
by verb_to_trust
I guess the stadium shows are tough to get but those are just circle jerks for people like Theo Epstein. I'd much rather go to Alpine or a random arena.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 6:31 pm
by epilogue
The ticket "benefit" is pointless for me. I never get access to those for show I could reasonably attend. So, it's a waste. The vinyl was really the only thing keeping me in the game. *shrugs*

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 8:31 pm
by LetMeSleep
Coach wrote:I'm in it for the tix and the single was icing on the cake.

It's too bad, but not losing sleep over it.
They lost me years ago.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 9:22 pm
by CopperTom
In all seriousness, the 10C does a great job with fanclub tickets and I would be sad to see them go. These new, simple, and free fanclubs are as exclusive as entering your email address and result in clusterfuck sales worse than the old F5 days with seats all over the building. Love it or hate it, the lottery is the fairest solution that usually works well, except if you have a GA or bust approach, or major-market or bust approach. Hell, the 10C even offered second-chance sales for several shows for fans who struck out in the lottery.

I never spun a Christmas single. I joined for the chance at fan-club tickets.


So the 10C has contracted with 3rd party vendors in recent years:
2013 they partnered with [???] for help with 10C ticket sales (lottery sales).
2013 they partnered with TSURT for help with tour merchandise.
2016 they partnered with Probity to help with European merch distribution.
2018 they partnered with Ticketmaster for paperless fanclub ticket distribution.

Slowly, but surely, they have been eliminating in-house 10C jobs with outside vendor contracts.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 9:49 pm
by epilogue
Seriously, I've never "won" fanclub tickets since moving to nyc in 2007.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 9:51 pm
by Strat
I've only had fan club tickets since 2000. Its been wonderful.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 9:53 pm
by Birds in Hell
I wouldn't be surprised to see 10C slowly wound down as membership inevitably drops off to a core of a few thousand (or few hundred?) long-term US-based members.

The band rarely tours (going on five years since they last played here and that was festivals only) and there's virtually no ticketing benefit outside of the US anyway.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 10:00 pm
by bune
Rangi Guy wrote:For a band that was heralded as being all for the fans - this is pretty shit. And my renewal just clocked over....

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 10:35 pm
by 96583UP
2018 Single Announced!!!
Spoiler: show
’Love it When I Call U Bitch’ (Studio feat Tupac overdub) / ‘Love it When I Call U Bitch’ (Live feat Tim Biermann as Tupac)

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 11:19 pm
by bodysnatcher
96583UP wrote:2018 Single Announced!!!
Spoiler: show
’Love it When I Call U Bitch’ (Studio feat Tupac overdub) / ‘Love it When I Call U Bitch’ (Live feat Tim Biermann as Tupac)
That’d be the best single in 10 years

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 11:30 pm
by 96583UP
bodysnatcher wrote:
96583UP wrote:2018 Single Announced!!!
Spoiler: show
’Love it When I Call U Bitch’ (Studio feat Tupac overdub) / ‘Love it When I Call U Bitch’ (Live feat Tim Biermann as Tupac)
That’d be the best single in 10 years
the live cut is from the final edition of Monkey Wrench radio which will be thematically dedicated entirely toward insulting pearl jam's shitty fans

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 11:35 pm
by Coach
the tix is a huge advantage; my number lands me rows 1-2, 5-7, 10-12 multiple times at Ed solo shows and full PJ shows, including recent ones. my tix are usually on stubhub for $500 to $1,000.

when the 10c made rows 1-2 and 9-10 a true lottery, it did kind of fuck me though.

still, the digital membership is a small mark-up to pay for a concert tix.

Re: R.I.P. Ten Club Singles (1991-2018)

Posted: Fri December 28, 2018 11:36 pm
by epilogue
I want to punch everyone who has success with and likes the ticketing system.