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Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Thu September 12, 2019 11:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Thu September 12, 2019 11:59 pm
by VinylGuy
Im sure the movie is fine. I dont get why the movie should have a ¨message¨anyway.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 12:13 am
by Mickey
VinylGuy wrote:Im sure the movie is fine. I dont get why the movie should have a ¨message¨anyway.
What is it like to move through the world like this? Everything has a message.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 12:36 am
by Mickey
BurtReynolds wrote:This movie will be critic proof so they can clutch their pearls all they'd like.
Comic book movies traditionally make a killing at the box office, other than that I can't imagine a reading of this sentence that isn't gibberish.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 12:41 am
by BurtReynolds
no one ever accused you of having imagination.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 12:50 am
by Mickey
BurtReynolds wrote:no one ever accused you of having imagination.
Sure thing Mac. It doesn't make your statement any smarter.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 1:02 am
by VinylGuy
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im sure the movie is fine. I dont get why the movie should have a ¨message¨anyway.
What is it like to move through the world like this? Everything has a message.
It’s just a movie based on the joker.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 1:13 am
by Strat
Just calm down mickey

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 1:19 am
by run2death
BurtReynolds wrote:no one ever accused you of having imagination.
It's just Mickey.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 1:23 am
by Mickey
VinylGuy wrote:
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im sure the movie is fine. I dont get why the movie should have a ¨message¨anyway.
What is it like to move through the world like this? Everything has a message.
It’s just a movie based on the joker.
Look man I think getting mad about the Joker movie is dumb bullshit too but the idea that movies don't subtly promote ideas (about cops, about justice, about mental health, etc.) is truly stupid.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 2:03 am
by BurtReynolds
it's the right movie at the right time.

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Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 2:04 am
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:it's the right movie at the right time.

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You said it. People can't even spell worth shit these days.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 3:25 am
by VinylGuy
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im sure the movie is fine. I dont get why the movie should have a ¨message¨anyway.
What is it like to move through the world like this? Everything has a message.
It’s just a movie based on the joker.
Look man I think getting mad about the Joker movie is dumb bullshit too but the idea that movies don't subtly promote ideas (about cops, about justice, about mental health, etc.) is truly stupid.
Well I haven’t seen this one yet; but I’m damn sure I won’t be looking for ideas on mental health or cops on this movie. It’s just fun. Sure, i guess the whole “guy who was left apart from society “ angle will appear ..but an actual comment on that? Yeez.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 3:29 am
by Mickey
VinylGuy wrote:
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im sure the movie is fine. I dont get why the movie should have a ¨message¨anyway.
What is it like to move through the world like this? Everything has a message.
It’s just a movie based on the joker.
Look man I think getting mad about the Joker movie is dumb bullshit too but the idea that movies don't subtly promote ideas (about cops, about justice, about mental health, etc.) is truly stupid.
Well I haven’t seen this one yet; but I’m damn sure I won’t be looking for ideas on mental health or cops on this movie. It’s just fun. Sure, i guess the whole “guy who was left apart from society “ angle will appear ..but an actual comment on that? Yeez.
You don't have to...look for ideas in order to passively receive them? Jesus christ dude read a book.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 4:59 am
by VinylGuy
Yeah I read a lot of them. Don’t really get why you are so angry when I think this is a minor movie and it’s just for fun.
I haven’t seen it yet, really looking forward to, and I’m almost sure it will be as shallow as it gets.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 5:18 am
by Mickey
It's weird that you're reading anger into this situation, maybe you're actually an incel?

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 5:19 am
by Mickey
Anyway, every narrative has an implicit message, this has been my only point and it's a pretty basic one.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 8:08 am
by VinylGuy
I get that, all I’m saying is that movies should be allowed to be just fun.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 8:12 am
by VinylGuy
Mickey wrote:It's weird that you're reading anger into this situation, maybe you're actually an incel?
Anger yeah. Explicit desperation.

Re: DC: Joker

Posted: Fri September 13, 2019 4:01 pm
by Mickey
The mechanism of psychological projection is wild.