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theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

Are you pimping me here to keep me around rm?

No, I'd legitimately never heard the studio version before

This is the (much, much punkier) version I know

Oh wow.

The studio version of Leatherman with Jack on drums is so great.

Did they ever play Leatherman live with Jack?

Yes, once on the Australian leg of the '98 tour (the first Perth show).

I tried finding it on YouTube but instead stumbled into the Magic Bus thing they do at the end of In My Tree the next night in Perth.

Holy shit! How have I never heard this before?

Farmer John wrote:I tried finding it on YouTube but instead stumbled into the Magic Bus thing they do at the end of In My Tree the next night in Perth.

Holy shit! How have I never heard this before?

Damn. Never seen that either. Love that.

God his voice was so good on that tour.

GUY ON DRUMS ISN'T BAD EITHER.

YES to both!

Strat wrote:

Farmer John wrote:I tried finding it on YouTube but instead stumbled into the Magic Bus thing they do at the end of In My Tree the next night in Perth.

Holy shit! How have I never heard this before?

Damn. Never seen that either. Love that.

God his voice was so good on that tour.

i had no idea magic bus was the inspiration for in my tree. this is fucking awesome

Kevin Davis wrote:

Strat wrote:Leatherman isn’t punk for fucks sake. It’s basically a folk song.

theplatypus wrote:

Strat wrote:It bounces. It doesn’t thrash or propel.

Gonna have to disagree with you all idiots here and this is where I part ways from rm. good luck. Morons

Hold on a second, all this time I was talking about the Touring Bank 2000 version of "Leatherman" because that's the only version I've ever heard. I just listened to the studio version (for the first time ever!) and it has a completely different rhythm, feel, and aesthetic, and I agree with you that I would not call it punk at all

Really glad this was worked out. From the jangly guitars to the relatively monotone but somehow really musical vocal melody, "Leatherman" always felt very REM-ish to me; even the storytelling component has a very "Fables of the Reconstruction"-ish feel. It takes on some punky elements live but it's not really in the song's DNA. I think the same applies to "U."

can absolutely imagine michael stipe singing leatherman in that same register.

can everyone please stop enjoying leatherman!

I like the studio version of Leatherman more than any single song on the last two albums. Maybe even all of them added together.

Hate the studio version of Leatherman. 0.5*

Leatherman is great. One of their best b-sides.

thank you, Anders

I love a good ditzy spunker

That's what she said.

This should be the name of my upcoming hard seltzer brand

Spritzy Punkers. Each named after one of our favorite pj spritzy punkers. Could maybe do a slightly less carbonated/alcoholic version called the leatherman

thank god for this thread

a few thoughts:

- When I conceived of the ‘Spritzy’ concept it was meant to entail: ‘Wussy’ , ‘Bubbly’ , ‘Happy and you think the song is satisfactory rock music but the song makes you look/sound like an ass’

- I considered ‘Mankind’ as patient zero but decided against nominating it because it was deliberately designed by Stone to sound like a cheap copy-cat of a grunge song. So there being irony to it I could not bring myself to call it Spritzy. It is ironically spritzy. Then, ironically, PJ themselves subsequently became spritzy

- Supersonic is the archetype. It is not the first, but when in doubt, compare to Supersonic

- This must be the topic of the next RMarch Madness: Worst Spritzy Punker. We might have to auto-DQ Supersonic at the outset, however, just to make things competitive

There's something about Leatherman that always reminded me of the baggy era - stone roses and happy mondays. I think it's Jeff's bass.