Red Mosquito

I'm going to try and get to this some point this week or early next week. I re watched amazing spider man in preparation. I really like Andrew Garfield as spiderman, and that film had a lot of nice moments, but it's still missing something. I can't quite put my finger on what. There may not be enough at stake. The death of Uncle Ben is sad, but too much goes Spiderman's way, which makes him less effective as a scrappy underdog.

Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. What remarkably talented people.

nice comparison between the two franchises
http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2014/15-r ... net_180112


I haven't seen the second film yet. Is this on point?

its close

i think the chemistry for andrew and emma is > tobey and kristin

to me the biggest difference is how spiderman is played. i think webb and andrew have spidermans character down pat. in the first trilogy peter parker and spiderman are basically the same character. where as in the comics and the new ones they are two different people.

parker is quiet and mostly a loner which both actors i think nail (though i give tobey the nod) and peter should be awkward around women and tobey is but andrew feels really at ease with the ladies. but once parker puts on the mask his confidence grows and he is no longer having introvert tendencies.

I think the nerd aspect of Peter Parker is somewhat exaggerated. He was nerdy in high school pre spider bite but he grew out of that pretty quickly and a lot of it was for appearances sake. The guy has banged a load of hot chicks. Besides being a nerd in the 60s and a nerd today are somewhat different as far as it being a social stigma. The nerds have inherited the earth. Peters horrible luck and the huge amount of crap he gets for always doing the right thing and how that negatively affects his relationships is more of a defining characteristic to me. I like the new guy.

Just saw this. I really enjoyed it. The chemistry between Garfield and Stone was really excellent, and Garfield is just so likeable. It's impossible not to want to root for him. Electro was rendered well but the character was not that interesting.. The fights were pretty entertaining, and I like what they've done with Spiderman as a fixture of NY. Stacey's death was VERY well done. And I'm a mark for this kind of cheesy stuff, but I loved that bit with the little kid at the end (and when Spiderman saved him from the bullies earlier)

Having said that, I have some sympathy for some of the critiques I've read, even if they didn't bother me in the film. Harry Osbourne was rushed. I won't say it wasn't necessary since they're obviously setting up the next film, and I think you need to appreciate comic book movies as serial storytelling as well as stand alone episodes. But I didn't buy the friendship and wasn't hurt by the betrayal. If they had made him potentially more likeable at first, or established that they were friends in the first movie, it would have helped.

The stuff with Peter's Dad wasn't particularly necessary, but it wasn't unnecessary either.

I've read some people complain that Spiderman didn't learn anything from the first film (about putting people at risk, etc). Since he paid such a high cost in this film I liked that arc, and I'm also fine with, after 5 months of grieving, him deciding to come out of retirement. He has to. Everyone needs him, and the character needs the juxtaposition between the love he gets as spiderman and the comparative emptiness in his life as Peter.

Overall I was definitely a fan. The villains have yet to blow me away (the first 2 spider man films had much better villains), but I enjoy the spiderman and peter/stacey interactions so much the film can whether it.

stip wrote:The stuff with Peter's Dad wasn't particularly necessary, but it wasn't unnecessary either.

pls start a film review site

theplatypus wrote:

stip wrote:The stuff with Peter's Dad wasn't particularly necessary, but it wasn't unnecessary either.

pls start a film review site

stip's posts often read like a bot's posts. not a sentient bot, but not a non-sentient one either.

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Mecca wrote:

spike wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r75BFcH4u2k[/youtube]

i expected better from you

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I rewatched the first 2 Spider-Man movies this weekend. 1 is still pretty good in a campy way. I forgot how good 2 still is. It holds up in a way than neither X-men or x-2 have.

Other than the fact that every time Spider-Man punched doc Ock he should kill him

Their aren't many superheroes who's power level ebbs and flows based on plot quite as much as Spider-Man.

I loved the first one but I've yet to see the second. I've heard mixed reviews and I guess I'm scared of being disappointed as I had such good fun at the first movie.

It's fun. I'm not sure why it's been trashed the way it has.

I guess because more seasoned Spider-man fans than me were pretty happy with the other ones. Personally I find them fun but too light, and kind of average. I liked the darker, more intense colour palette and atmosphere of the first one in this series. But I think that's what others didn't like, so... potato / potato. If the tone you wanted was already in existence you didn't need this reboot.

These are certainly darker. The storytelling is better in the first two of the first series, but these have a darker tone, better action, And better chemistry with the leads. The new Spider-Man is less a nerd and some don't like that interpretation

Yeah. I just find the human interactions way more believable.