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Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 10:52 am
by stupidmop
CC needs a whole different album than S/T, because its stylistically different and imo better than anything on that album. An album with CC and LiR on it would be completely different in tone and once again imo possibley better. Maybe its just cause I'm not really atatched to any of the S/T songs. Unemployable, army reserve and parachutes can stay. Throw Wws, comatose, Severed hand and big wave on a rawking ep, boom.

Or barring that, they'd probably fit ok if S/T wasn't mastered halfway to death and the instruments had some room to breathe.

Edit: forgot severed hand on my rawkin ep.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 10:57 am
by harmless
Anyone who thinks this isn't finished has got too used to Brendan O'Brien's attempts at fixin' them.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 11:05 am
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:Anyone who thinks this isn't finished has got too used to Brendan O'Brien's attempts at fixin' them.
Yeah the writing is finished. I've said it before but I think the vocal takes would have been redone if going to mastering.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 11:15 am
by stupidmop
Probably, I probably would still prefer this one though the weird vocal melody he's got going on only works cause it sounds all rough round the edges and spontaneous/not overthought. Once you iron all that out all you have is a odd vocal melody. And probably some vocal over acting like the end. I really like eds mumbly singing to himself voice though, prefer the SOS vocals over the finals too.

I also thought this was an ed song, but it also has more groove than anything ed has written so that's probably stone. Makes sense if it was a jam.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 11:29 am
by harmless
I agree that they would iron out all the imperfections in the studio, and that it would probably diminish the song. At least we have better lyrics than Inside Job's here though.

I was listening to Breakerfall yesterday, thinking that it would be really nice if Ed would double up on the vocal like he did there on some new songs. Like, on Lightning Bolt, a low baritone spoken chorus underneath the screamed one would sound great, and make the song instantly cooler.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 11:45 am
by stupidmop
Yes I love that one higher vocal and one lower vocal layering ed used to do quite a bit, I don't know if he's done it on anything recent. Basically LB needs to sounds entirely like it was recorded 95-2000 to work, I want vocal layering and weird ass sounds and sound effects only properly heard through headphones :evil: don't let me down ed.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 11:53 am
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:Yes I love that one higher vocal and one lower vocal layering ed used to do quite a bit, I don't know if he's done it on anything recent. Basically LB needs to sounds entirely like it was recorded 95-2000 to work, I want vocal layering and weird ass sounds and sound effects only properly heard through headphones :evil: don't let me down ed.
:thumbsup:

MYM has a couple of interesting things going on in headphones, but only on a similar level to Backspacer.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 11:57 am
by stip
a few backspacer songs really come alive on headphones. The second verse of FoN especially.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:14 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:a few backspacer songs really come alive on headphones. The second verse of FoN especially.
Yup, and (whisper it) The Fixer.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:14 pm
by stip
the music in the fixer is REALLY good.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:16 pm
by harmless
It is.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:19 pm
by LetMeSleep
stip wrote:the music in the fixer is REALLY good.
I concur. And the lyrics are pretty good too. Yeah yeah.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:26 pm
by Heathen
stip wrote:the music in the fixer is REALLY good.
I don't know about that, I think it's REALLY bad

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:28 pm
by Birds in Hell
Matt's demo clearly shows the bones of something promising but too little of what made it interesting ended up in the final product. It should've been the album's Get Right.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:29 pm
by harmless
And Lightning Bolt should be this album's Wishlist / Evacuation mashup but it won't be.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:52 pm
by Got Some
harmless wrote:I agree that they would iron out all the imperfections in the studio, and that it would probably diminish the song. At least we have better lyrics than Inside Job's here though.

I was listening to Breakerfall yesterday, thinking that it would be really nice if Ed would double up on the vocal like he did there on some new songs. Like, on Lightning Bolt, a low baritone spoken chorus underneath the screamed one would sound great, and make the song instantly cooler.
X2

One deep "mind your manners" wouldn't of hurt either

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:54 pm
by stip
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:the music in the fixer is REALLY good.
I don't know about that, I think it's REALLY bad
Exactly! You don't know. The important thing s we have cleared that up and can now move on.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:56 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:the music in the fixer is REALLY good.
I don't know about that, I think it's REALLY bad
Exactly! You don't know. The important thing s we have cleared that up and can now move on.
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Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:00 pm
by dimejinky99
The bridge part in fixer is really great. 'Ill dig your grave, we'll dance and sing..'
Pj never fail to write a great bridge.

Music and lyrics are really great in Fixer.

Re: new (old) song: Cold Confession

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:00 pm
by harmless
Got Some wrote:
harmless wrote:I agree that they would iron out all the imperfections in the studio, and that it would probably diminish the song. At least we have better lyrics than Inside Job's here though.

I was listening to Breakerfall yesterday, thinking that it would be really nice if Ed would double up on the vocal like he did there on some new songs. Like, on Lightning Bolt, a low baritone spoken chorus underneath the screamed one would sound great, and make the song instantly cooler.
X2

One deep "mind your manners" wouldn't of hurt either
True.