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Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:37 pm
by tree_
wease wrote:tree_ wrote:If it is so that people are offended by different things, and it is within their rights to be offended, then it is reasonable to assume he was justifiably (in his mind) acting out and attacking specific people because of what he interpreted as attacks toward him. Even if you might not understand or agree with his motives, he was in fact motivated to do so. He did not send me nasty messages, probably because we never butted heads, for example. It is helpful to have compassion and understanding, particularly for your enemies, so as to avoid further unnecessary harm. Yes, imprison from society and ban people from message boards who have shown a penchant for committing harmful acts, but it's for their own good and society's; it is not necessary to rub salt in their wounds. Perhaps if we took a different approach and talked to him like a friend, he will learn to behave like a friend to us also.
They same way you had compassion and understanding for the guy you had gotten fired?
haha you're never going to let that fantasy of yours go, are you? you know that whole thing was a joke, right?
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:40 pm
by tree_
dad wrote:he seems to continue with the same patterns, though.
how many times are you willing to go to the compassion well for him before you decided it's a lost cause here?
Maybe if we were able to take the high road and somehow not let his words and actions harm us, and we just asked him why he's behaving in such a way, we could move on... I truly wonder what his motives are. I haven't read through all his posts. But I suspect there was some friction between him and specific posters around some trending debatable political issues of the day.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:40 pm
by wease
tree_ wrote:wease wrote:tree_ wrote:If it is so that people are offended by different things, and it is within their rights to be offended, then it is reasonable to assume he was justifiably (in his mind) acting out and attacking specific people because of what he interpreted as attacks toward him. Even if you might not understand or agree with his motives, he was in fact motivated to do so. He did not send me nasty messages, probably because we never butted heads, for example. It is helpful to have compassion and understanding, particularly for your enemies, so as to avoid further unnecessary harm. Yes, imprison from society and ban people from message boards who have shown a penchant for committing harmful acts, but it's for their own good and society's; it is not necessary to rub salt in their wounds. Perhaps if we took a different approach and talked to him like a friend, he will learn to behave like a friend to us also.
They same way you had compassion and understanding for the guy you had gotten fired?
haha you're never going to let that fantasy of yours go, are you? you know that whole thing was a joke, right?
Sure it was
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:41 pm
by wease
tree_ wrote:dad wrote:he seems to continue with the same patterns, though.
how many times are you willing to go to the compassion well for him before you decided it's a lost cause here?
Maybe if we were able to take the high road and somehow not let his words and actions harm us, and we just asked him why he's behaving in such a way, we could move on... I truly wonder what his motives are. I haven't read through all his posts. But I suspect there was some friction between him and specific posters around some trending debatable political issues of the day.
What he did went far beyond any kind of political disagreements.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:43 pm
by tommy
I always got along pretty well with Mac, but he still pmed me pictures of dead bodies. How do you explain that?
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:43 pm
by tree_
tommy wrote:I always got along pretty well with Mac, but he still pmed me pictures of dead bodies. How do you explain that?
I thought you said Dev did that?
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:44 pm
by dad
he was looking for your approval.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:45 pm
by tommy
tree_ wrote:tommy wrote:I always got along pretty well with Mac, but he still pmed me pictures of dead bodies. How do you explain that?
I thought you said Dev did that?
I thought it was Dev at the time because he had been acting really weird, but it was later revealed to have been Mac.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:47 pm
by Peeps
tree_ wrote:dad wrote:he seems to continue with the same patterns, though.
how many times are you willing to go to the compassion well for him before you decided it's a lost cause here?
Maybe if we were able to take the high road and somehow not let his words and actions harm us, and we just asked him why he's behaving in such a way, we could move on... I truly wonder what his motives are. I haven't read through all his posts. But I suspect there was some friction between him and specific posters around some trending debatable political issues of the day.
like i said. trying to find an excuse for hoping someones wife has a still born
i rest my case
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:48 pm
by tree_
Peeps wrote:tree_ wrote:dad wrote:he seems to continue with the same patterns, though.
how many times are you willing to go to the compassion well for him before you decided it's a lost cause here?
Maybe if we were able to take the high road and somehow not let his words and actions harm us, and we just asked him why he's behaving in such a way, we could move on... I truly wonder what his motives are. I haven't read through all his posts. But I suspect there was some friction between him and specific posters around some trending debatable political issues of the day.
like i said. trying to find an excuse for hoping someones wife has a still born
i rest my case
Do you think he actually hoped for this? Or maybe he was trying to piss off mickey because he felt mickey had tried to piss him off previously? At the end of the day, they were just words and nobody killed anybody.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 3:55 pm
by The Argonaut
I once got so mad at Mickey that I threatened to kill myself. That's insane, but it's not necessarily evil. Mickey responded with compassion. PhatMac said some evil shit, he deserves to be responded to in kind.
We are not saints, tree, nor do some of us even aspire to be.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:01 pm
by tree_
The Argonaut wrote:I once got so mad at Mickey that I threatened to kill myself. That's insane, but it's not necessarily evil. Mickey responded with compassion. PhatMac said some evil shit, he deserves to be responded to in kind.
We are not saints, tree, nor do some of us even aspire to be.
"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:20 pm
by not4you
Mickey urged macphisto to suicide on multiple occasions while he was still a member, long before the alleged PMs. He also wished death on a sitting member of Congress. Most of it appears to have been memory-holed, but here's a reference.
Mickey wrote:macphisto wrote:This is about common sense abortion safety laws. Nobody is coming to take away your abortions.
You should put an abortion in your mouth and pull the abortion trigger.
96583UP wrote:they should settle this in the RM ancient way
an endless 3-week pissing fest of constant posting and arguing culminating in a ‘vacation’ for one side (but not the other), which causes significant griping by the people of RM, which leads to collateral arguing and additional vacations for multiple parties
Preferential moderation and uneven application of the rules was a big part of it. People were allowed to attack me with impunity, and when I'd clap back, I caught the bans. verb got similar treatment. You can only be called a fucking piece of shit so many times before it starts to eat at you.
Wishing for someone's baby to be stillborn (allegedly) is truly beyond the pale, but in a community full of abortion enjoyers, how bad is it really? Is the only difference between a good dead baby and a bad dead baby the mother's wishes? That's a huge moral and logical inconsistency. For the record, I'm glad Mickey was able to start a family. I just hope they don't mindfuck the kid too badly.
Peeps shouldn't be calling anyone a fool. He's got one of the smoothest brains around. Bless his heart.
For those telling me to get help, I am. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your grace and compassion.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:23 pm
by tommy
To be fair, Verb was a piece of shit. Politics aside, he was a total misanthrope who enjoyed the suffering of others.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:27 pm
by not4you
tommy wrote:To be fair, Verb was a piece of shit. Politics aside, he was a total misanthrope who enjoyed the suffering of others.
He was our misanthrope. Clever too, not just a straight up dick like me.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:31 pm
by tree_
I don't think any logical, reasonable pro-abortion RMerican actually wants a baby to die, or as you put it, would consider it a "good" dead baby. Big straw man there. But thank you for letting your views be known. Holding a false impression such as this of relatively good RMericans has lead you astray. I'm glad you're seeking to get your head on straighter. I hope it works out and truly wish for you the best.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:33 pm
by tommy
It's nice that Mac is taking self improvement seriously. Do we know if Mickey is doing the same?
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:34 pm
by Peeps
not4you wrote:Mickey urged macphisto to suicide on multiple occasions while he was still a member, long before the alleged PMs. He also wished death on a sitting member of Congress. Most of it appears to have been memory-holed, but here's a reference.
Mickey wrote:macphisto wrote:This is about common sense abortion safety laws. Nobody is coming to take away your abortions.
You should put an abortion in your mouth and pull the abortion trigger.
96583UP wrote:they should settle this in the RM ancient way
an endless 3-week pissing fest of constant posting and arguing culminating in a ‘vacation’ for one side (but not the other), which causes significant griping by the people of RM, which leads to collateral arguing and additional vacations for multiple parties
Preferential moderation and uneven application of the rules was a big part of it. People were allowed to attack me with impunity, and when I'd clap back, I caught the bans. verb got similar treatment. You can only be called a fucking piece of shit so many times before it starts to eat at you.
Wishing for someone's baby to be stillborn (allegedly) is truly beyond the pale, but in a community full of abortion enjoyers, how bad is it really? Is the only difference between a good dead baby and a bad dead baby the mother's wishes? That's a huge moral and logical inconsistency. For the record, I'm glad Mickey was able to start a family. I just hope they don't mindfuck the kid too badly.
Peeps shouldn't be calling anyone a fool. He's got one of the smoothest brains around. Bless his heart.
For those telling me to get help, I am. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your grace and compassion.
the fact that you have multiple back up accounts to get around bans shows how much help you have been getting
also to say abortion enjoyers is laughable. you can say you are getting all the help you need but i dont believe it.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:36 pm
by Mickey
tommy wrote:It's nice that Mac is taking self improvement seriously. Do we know if Mickey is doing the same?
I'm not posting here anymore, so.
Re: I’m not a bad person
Posted: Wed August 16, 2023 4:57 pm
by Ello Sailor
The Argonaut wrote:I once got so mad at Mickey that I threatened to kill myself.
You mad bastard. I thought deleting our Discord server was over the top, but this is... something else.