Red Mosquito

Maybe busy is the wrong word. Just a lot of musical touches I don't like. There's keyboards under the verses, the guitar solos that imo don't fit, the piano under the bridge, I feel like they're all unnecessary. Keyboards/piano is what I don't like the most though.It's very big and I feel like I'd like it more if it was toned down a little.

I keep flip flopping on liking it or not.

Has a Joe Cocker vibe to it that I really like

cutuphalfdead wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Lowlight > Yellow Moon

It's not even close. Yellow Moon is all cheese. Low Light is one of the most beautiful songs they've ever done.

I thought Low Light was all cheese to begin with. Even now, it's great but it's mostly cheese.

harmless wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Lowlight > Yellow Moon

It's not even close. Yellow Moon is all cheese. Low Light is one of the most beautiful songs they've ever done.

I thought Low Light was all cheese to begin with.

but it's on Yield.

Cheese? Where? I don't hear cheese.

Nobody *hears* cheese. But if you get your nose close enough to Lowlight, you can smell it.

hm.

Neither Yellow Moon nor Low Light are cheesy to me. Low Light is one of the non-cheesiest ballads they've done. That's one of the reasons I like it so much.

At one point in one of these convos, harmless described Pearl Jam as having "always been cheesy." It really lost its descriptive assistance for me, after that.

that's because you don't smell with your brain. you smell with your heart.

McParadigm wrote:At one point in one of these convos, harmless described Pearl Jam as having "always been cheesy." It really lost its descriptive assistance for me, after that.

I think that was a flippant over-generalisation on my part that is in many ways true, but not in every way, and obviously not in the ways you're thinking of.

Mike wrote:Neither Yellow Moon nor Low Light are cheesy to me. Low Light is one of the non-cheesiest ballads they've done. That's one of the reasons I like it so much.

Yellow Moon is no more "cheesy" than Automatic-era R.E.M, imo.

nope, and that's the second greatest album of all time

theplatypus wrote:hm.

What Lowlight lacks, of course, is latter-day BoB to dial the cheese up to 11. The songs themselves are comparable but you have to dig a bit.

If this is the same cheesey that we discussed during the sirens release then I have no idea what cheesey is. Neither Low Light or Yellow Moon are cheesey.

harmless wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Lowlight > Yellow Moon

It's not even close. Yellow Moon is all cheese. Low Light is one of the most beautiful songs they've ever done.

I thought Low Light was all cheese to begin with. Even now, it's great but it's mostly cheese.

Low Light is not cheesy whatsoever. Wishlist, maybe... not Low Light though.

Automatic is an album that does sentimental rock music just right without being cheesy. Well, I wouldn't argue if someone said Everybody Hurts is a liiiitttle cheesy. I love that album so much.

harmless wrote:

McParadigm wrote:At one point in one of these convos, harmless described Pearl Jam as having "always been cheesy." It really lost its descriptive assistance for me, after that.

I think that was a flippant over-generalisation on my part that is in many ways true, but not in every way, and obviously not in the ways you're thinking of.

I think I understand your use of the word, and if I do then I'd tend to agree that it describes something that has inhabited most Pearl Jam releases...I'm just saying that it takes away any descriptive value when discussing Pearl Jam on, say, Yield, vs. Pearl Jam on Yellow Moon. Saying a song has "cheese," after that, is like saying it has guitars on it.

harmless wrote:

Mike wrote:Neither Yellow Moon nor Low Light are cheesy to me. Low Light is one of the non-cheesiest ballads they've done. That's one of the reasons I like it so much.

Yellow Moon is no more "cheesy" than Automatic-era R.E.M, imo.

I bet id find that album fairly cheesy then

This is kinda bombastic, I think thats the word. Like love reign over me, bombastic.

I use cheesy to describe things that are so over-the-top that they feel unauthentic/contrived.