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Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Thu March 20, 2025 12:39 pm
by stip
the morning after, and I do think this mix of running is better.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Thu March 20, 2025 10:37 pm
by Buby
It's always an interesting listen when it comes to familiar material tweaked in some way.
Be it rearranged, remixed, remastered, covered, mashuped, etc.
I don't see any of these tracks replacing any of the originals, but I enjoyed the listen.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Fri March 21, 2025 1:22 pm
by digster
I think something like 3 or (more likely) 3.5 seems about right to me. It's a significant step above some of my least favorite work by the band this century; I think it's ended up landing just above or around where S/T is in my rankings. I think that's probably pretty close to where it started; I only tend to go back to 4-5 songs from this with any regularity, but those 4-5 pop up often for me in listening to music.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Fri March 21, 2025 2:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Fri March 21, 2025 2:28 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:Big shift in the poll results, suggesting continued love for this album. Is it the result of transient posters showing up for stip’s tournament, or did stip finally figure out a chatbot swarm macro for his multiple accounts?
why choose?
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 3:06 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:Big shift in the poll results, suggesting continued love for this album. Is it the result of transient posters showing up for stip’s tournament, or did stip finally figure out a chatbot swarm macro for his multiple accounts?
People like the album, Trag.
Let it go
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 3:32 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 1:07 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Big shift in the poll results, suggesting continued love for this album. Is it the result of transient posters showing up for stip’s tournament, or did stip finally figure out a chatbot swarm macro for his multiple accounts?
People like the album, Trag.
Let it go
Never
My man!
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 2:57 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 4:15 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:Big shift in the poll results, suggesting continued love for this album. Is it the result of transient posters showing up for stip’s tournament, or did stip finally figure out a chatbot swarm macro for his multiple accounts?
Russian bots
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 4:53 pm
by Leatherhead
This album is so weird. I think it's good, but also it sucks.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 7:53 pm
by Jorge
Leatherhead wrote:This album is so weird. I think it's good, but also it sucks.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sat March 22, 2025 11:05 pm
by Kalevi
I'm not crazy about the production, but even though I saw this as a concept album at the time it was released, it hits the implications even harder now thanks to world/US events. A cautionary tale they refused to express explicitly.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Wed April 02, 2025 8:02 pm
by sico_pata
ridleybradout wrote:Ok, I was holding out posting this in respect for trag's upcoming Dark Matter remix (which I still hope gets completed one day as it will be a totally different beast anyway) but it's been almost a year now, so
here it is.
This is a stereo mixdown of the 7.1 Dolby Atmos bluray version of Dark Matter (converted using Logic) that I found posted in a comment on redacted.sh last year. Some of you may have come across it there or elsewhere too.
It is
light years ahead of the 'regular' stereo mix - better separation, more dynamic, and with some of the Wattish sheen taken off (though the drums still don't sound as good as they should).
Between this version and the Apple Dolby Atmos mix, I don't think I've actually listened to the 'original stereo' mix since it first came out. I just went back to it after reading the above comments and it hurt my ears - it sounds like a 90's MP3 downloaded from Napster
So enough is enough - download this version and never look back
I have found a BD 2024 TrueHD 24-48 8CH. It's better or same as 7.1 mix? both are Flac files but first one is 1,3GB vs 300MB
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Wed April 02, 2025 10:44 pm
by Ms Harmless
Got to Give is top tier for me at the moment
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Thu April 03, 2025 8:11 pm
by lvc
ridleybradout wrote:Ok, I was holding out posting this in respect for trag's upcoming Dark Matter remix (which I still hope gets completed one day as it will be a totally different beast anyway) but it's been almost a year now, so
here it is.
This is a stereo mixdown of the 7.1 Dolby Atmos bluray version of Dark Matter (converted using Logic) that I found posted in a comment on redacted.sh last year. Some of you may have come across it there or elsewhere too.
It is
light years ahead of the 'regular' stereo mix - better separation, more dynamic, and with some of the Wattish sheen taken off (though the drums still don't sound as good as they should).
Between this version and the Apple Dolby Atmos mix, I don't think I've actually listened to the 'original stereo' mix since it first came out. I just went back to it after reading the above comments and it hurt my ears - it sounds like a 90's MP3 downloaded from Napster
So enough is enough - download this version and never look back
How do you listen to this? I'm listening to Scared of Fear and All I hear is Jeff and Matt and that is abso-fruitin-lootly not why I listen to Pearl Jam. It sounds like the Atmos version pretty much, which sounded so bad in my car that both my son and I thought something was broken. Like I imagine Jeff and Matt chloroforming everyone in the mixing booth and making this mix before they wake up while twirling their snidely whiplash staches.
Sorry, I'm pretty cranky today.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Fri April 04, 2025 2:07 am
by stip
yea, after my first few listens i havent gone back to that mix. i accept that there are flaws with the official mix, but this is just swapping out problems
i did like running, though
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sun April 06, 2025 1:21 pm
by Jaeti
It also reminded me of the Atmos mix: more bass, some echo effects. But I don't recall the Atmos mix losing the guitars the way this one does, so I also haven't gone back to it.
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Sun April 06, 2025 2:57 pm
by stip
the echo is kind of cool on dark matter
Re: Challenge the recency bias/new albumitis: Rerank Dark Ma
Posted: Mon April 07, 2025 1:00 am
by ridleybradout
sico_pata wrote:
I have found a BD 2024 TrueHD 24-48 8CH. It's better or same as 7.1 mix? both are Flac files but first one is 1,3GB vs 300MB
Same - the 1.3GB one is the raw 8 channel (i.e. 7.1) rip that was used to create the 'stereo mixdown' version (300MB).