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I’ll be sad when this passes The Force Awakens for the all-time box-office crown. TFA was such a moment in my life. This was just a good movie.

daft twat wrote: Sun August 30, 2026 4:55 am I’ll be sad when this passes The Force Awakens for the all-time box-office crown. TFA was such a moment in my life. This was just a good movie.

Just take inflation in to account.

Bought a ticket to see this tomorrow afternoon. Wish me luck!

I think you’ll be ok

So this was a lot.

I liked it. But it felt over stuffed, too. Feels like the emotional beats worked but there are also a lot of logic leaps/holes. Why is Punisher in this?

Cast is strong. Zendaya is fantastic. Loved the action sequences.

B+

bada wrote: Mon August 24, 2026 1:21 pm

epilogue wrote: Sat August 22, 2026 7:18 pm Probably.

But I think laying the groundwork by giving her this kind of backstory makes the Phoenix stuff more interesting/believable. I think it heightens the impact. Planting those seeds is better storytelling, I think.

I'm not sure they were seeds they were full grown trees she murdered a bunch of innocent people after her sister taught her to mind rape people lol. She's the Purple Man basically. I would think a good person corrupted by absolute power would heighten the impact more than an awful person getting more awful.

Ok, not that I've actually seen the movie...

I think I like the groundwork being laid here. It will depend on how they tackle Dark Phoenix (assuming they do) down the road, but I like introducing Jean this way. There is inherent tension and doubt.

I thought her motivations were strong and believable. I think showing this as a potential lead into Dark Phoenix is interesting.

I never read the comic run, so my only exposure to the story has been the TV cartoon and the films. To me, this fixes a problem inherent in the story (the super dramatic shift/turn). This shows me that she's capable of darkness in a believable way. Now I think the promise of Phoenix is enhanced not diminished.

Put another way, what if this was a brand new character? How would you feel? I think it works, personally. If I imagine I'm brand new to the low, that I have no idea who she is or what is coming, I think the character works in the context of the story being told.

epilogue wrote: Sun September 06, 2026 2:48 am

bada wrote: Mon August 24, 2026 1:21 pm

epilogue wrote: Sat August 22, 2026 7:18 pm Probably.

But I think laying the groundwork by giving her this kind of backstory makes the Phoenix stuff more interesting/believable. I think it heightens the impact. Planting those seeds is better storytelling, I think.

I'm not sure they were seeds they were full grown trees she murdered a bunch of innocent people after her sister taught her to mind rape people lol. She's the Purple Man basically. I would think a good person corrupted by absolute power would heighten the impact more than an awful person getting more awful.

I never read the comic run, so my only exposure to the story has been the TV cartoon and the films. To me, this fixes a problem inherent in the story (the super dramatic shift/turn). This shows me that she's capable of darkness in a believable way. Now I think the promise of Phoenix is enhanced not diminished.

I know you and I have discussed source material before, but that’s not what I’m exactly doing, here.

When the original comics story was done, what you’re describing really hadn’t been done before. At least not to this level. And the point was whether or not someone handed the powers of a god (or gods) could handle it. If power corrupts, does absolute power corrupt absolutely? And to pick Jean, who was one of the earliest female heroes at Marvel, that was a master stroke. There is no inherent problem in the original story. Maybe in the many adaptations that have come after, but not in the original storyline.

The original cómic book Story was amazing i remember being blown away with Jean and then Madeline Pryor; dark phoenix; scott…

What they did on the movies suck

All the stuff with Madelyne Pryor was years after the initial story. They turned her into way more than what she should’ve been.

wease wrote: Sun September 06, 2026 12:40 pm

epilogue wrote: Sun September 06, 2026 2:48 am

bada wrote: Mon August 24, 2026 1:21 pm

epilogue wrote: Sat August 22, 2026 7:18 pm Probably.

But I think laying the groundwork by giving her this kind of backstory makes the Phoenix stuff more interesting/believable. I think it heightens the impact. Planting those seeds is better storytelling, I think.

I'm not sure they were seeds they were full grown trees she murdered a bunch of innocent people after her sister taught her to mind rape people lol. She's the Purple Man basically. I would think a good person corrupted by absolute power would heighten the impact more than an awful person getting more awful.

I never read the comic run, so my only exposure to the story has been the TV cartoon and the films. To me, this fixes a problem inherent in the story (the super dramatic shift/turn). This shows me that she's capable of darkness in a believable way. Now I think the promise of Phoenix is enhanced not diminished.

I know you and I have discussed source material before, but that’s not what I’m exactly doing, here.

When the original comics story was done, what you’re describing really hadn’t been done before. At least not to this level. And the point was whether or not someone handed the powers of a god (or gods) could handle it. If power corrupts, does absolute power corrupt absolutely? And to pick Jean, who was one of the earliest female heroes at Marvel, that was a master stroke. There is no inherent problem in the original story. Maybe in the many adaptations that have come after, but not in the original storyline.

Good to know.

Probably poor phrasing on my part. Like I said, I didn't read the comics story. I'm only familiar with the adaptations. So apologies for misspeaking about the original story.

I'm also not totally convinced that I'll end up liking how all this plays out over time. But I'm not bothered by the choice in this movie. I like it as it stands now.

wease wrote: Sun September 06, 2026 2:18 pm All the stuff with Madelyne Pryor was years after the initial story. They turned her into way more than what she should’ve been.

I loved it, specially scott losing his mind with her

Saw this yesterday with the family. It was a fine popcorn flick. Nothing outstanding, but it was fun

I don't know if y'all listen to the X-Ray Vision podcast, but their conversation about the future of the X-Men cinematic universe from August 5th is SUPER compelling to me.

Great convo

epilogue wrote: Sun September 06, 2026 11:19 pm I don't know if y'all listen to the X-Ray Vision podcast, but their conversation about the future of the X-Men cinematic universe from August 5th is SUPER compelling to me.

Great convo

im purposely leaning away from any potential spoilers but I think it is great they are leaning into Mr. Sinister. I just hope they use the character when he was first introduced and not the queens bufoon that has been portrayed after the 00s