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Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 5:55 am
by BurtReynolds
My brain keeps saying "mescaline" but I really shouldn't.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 11:04 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Kaius wrote:I'm not a big fan of this thread title. My brain wants it to say 'Masculinism' or 'Masculinity' or even just 'Masculin'
It was annoying me too. I think Masculinism sounds best.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 12:07 pm
by McParadigm
Boys are dumb. Discuss.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 12:17 pm
by LetMeSleep
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 12:33 pm
by broken iris
It's all about sex. Feminism doesn't work because when modern, sexually liberated women are at a bar or a party, the guy they go home with is the opposite of what feminism suggests a man should be. The empowerment of women and sexual liberation freed them from being financially and socially dependent on beta-males they weren't attracted to in order to survive (the patriarchy) and shifted/increased our social safety nets to support them in this endeavor. So now we are left with a structure where women can be free fuck all the alpha males they want and the government will force the betas to fund it. Victory! The response? Two-fold as the betas, both male and female, retool in order to compete. 1.) The dude-bros feminists hate. The higher functioning betas will attempt to mimic the sexual strategies of the alphas in order to have some level of reproductive success in a textbook case of be 'careful what you ask for', reinvigorating the patriarchy. 2.) A different feedback cycle for sexual competition amongst beta females who now have to compete with increasingly younger and more sexual available women. If a 30 year old lands an alpha male, she is going to have to put out more quickly than she might want or that alpha will go find a 'liberated' 24 year old that will.
Discuss.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 12:45 pm
by McParadigm
Really tho
Women have represented better than 60% of college graduates for years, now...a trend based mostly on disproportionate drop out rates but now set to be extremized by a recent reduction in incoming male freshmen. Men are FIFTY percent more likely to die of cancer than women, yet the majority of cancer awareness and research donation efforts favor cancers which rarely or never affect men. The pacing and verbal heavy designs of our early education system far favor girls over boys, whose development times for language and reading skills put their most receptive ages for learning to read well after the point that we have stopped "teaching to read" and started "reading to teach." Young boys also take longer to process verbally supplied information. It's no wonder they become most of our in school behavior problems and represent the vast majority of our dropouts. And on that note, males outpace females in suicide rates, with numbers for teenage boys and divorced men particularly high, but one recent study found that 70% of media discussion on the subject centered around teenage girls.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 1:09 pm
by harmless
broken iris wrote:It's all about sex.
No idea why you didn't just stop there, frankly.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 1:14 pm
by broken iris
harmless wrote:broken iris wrote:It's all about sex.
No idea why you didn't just stop there, frankly.
Because the world doesn't obey the constraints of theories and models, so we need to look at the consequences of our actions.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 2:19 pm
by Kaius
McParadigm wrote:Really tho
Women have represented better than 60% of college graduates for years, now...a trend based mostly on disproportionate drop out rates but now set to be extremized by a recent reduction in incoming male freshmen. Men are FIFTY percent more likely to die of cancer than women, yet the majority of cancer awareness and research donation efforts favor cancers which rarely or never affect men. The pacing and verbal heavy designs of our early education system far favor girls over boys, whose development times for language and reading skills put their most receptive ages for learning to read well after the point that we have stopped "teaching to read" and started "reading to teach." Young boys also take longer to process verbally supplied information. It's no wonder they become most of our in school behavior problems and represent the vast majority of our dropouts. And on that note, males outpace females in suicide rates, with numbers for teenage boys and divorced men particularly high, but one recent study found that 70% of media discussion on the subject centered around teenage girls.
Good post. Lots of worms in cans here.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 3:01 pm
by harmless
Men get demoted in society. Men do not like it.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 4:07 pm
by Harry Limb
McParadigm wrote:Really tho
Women have represented better than 60% of college graduates for years, now...a trend based mostly on disproportionate drop out rates but now set to be extremized by a recent reduction in incoming male freshmen. Men are FIFTY percent more likely to die of cancer than women, yet the majority of cancer awareness and research donation efforts favor cancers which rarely or never affect men. The pacing and verbal heavy designs of our early education system far favor girls over boys, whose development times for language and reading skills put their most receptive ages for learning to read well after the point that we have stopped "teaching to read" and started "reading to teach." Young boys also take longer to process verbally supplied information. It's no wonder they become most of our in school behavior problems and represent the vast majority of our dropouts. And on that note, males outpace females in suicide rates, with numbers for teenage boys and divorced men particularly high, but one recent study found that 70% of media discussion on the subject centered around teenage girls.
Yeah, but let me put it to you another way: how many of the protagonists in True Detective (2014) bleed into their slacks once a month?
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 4:28 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:Men get demoted in society. Men do not like it.
The man he don't give a fuck about anybody else
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 4:41 pm
by BurtReynolds
We are living in a post Oprah and Dr Phil world. This is the future and it is terrifying.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 5:29 pm
by malice
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Kaius wrote:I'm not a big fan of this thread title. My brain wants it to say 'Masculinism' or 'Masculinity' or even just 'Masculin'
It was annoying me too. I think Masculinism sounds best.
i think you should rename it and move it to the Arizona forum

Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 5:38 pm
by harmless
broken iris wrote:harmless wrote:broken iris wrote:It's all about sex.
No idea why you didn't just stop there, frankly.
Because the world doesn't obey the constraints of theories and models, so we need to look at the consequences of our actions.
I didn't see any consequences of your actions in that post, just a lot of baseless theorising ignoring others' experiences. Which at best makes you (everyone?) a hypocrite.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 6:14 pm
by mookie
harmless wrote:Men get demoted in society. Men do not like it.
Because they're demotions are based on the actions of the few, not the whole.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 6:20 pm
by harmless
mookie wrote:harmless wrote:Men get demoted in society. Men do not like it.
Because they're demotions are based on the actions of the few, not the whole.
Right.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 6:22 pm
by harmless
Except that you're still assuming men have had the right to be top of the pack, amirite? I mean, you're admitting a demotion is actually happening?
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 6:22 pm
by BurtReynolds
we're much better at arm wrestling.
Re: Masculism
Posted: Fri February 14, 2014 6:23 pm
by malice
leave it to px to fight for a joke thread