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Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 9:49 pm
by Strat
http://pearljam.com/news


Imagine That -- I’m Still Anti-War.
July 16 2014

Most of us have heard John Lennon sing

“You may say I’m a dreamer,… but I’m not the only one.”

And some of us, after another morning dose of news coverage full of
death and destruction, feel the need to reach out to others to see if
we are not alone in our outrage. With about a dozen assorted
ongoing conflicts in the news everyday, and with the stories
becoming more horrific, the level of sadness becomes unbearable.
And what becomes of our planet when that sadness becomes apathy?
Because we feel helpless. And we turn our heads and turn the page.

Currently, I’m full of hope. That hope springs from the multitudes of
people that our band has been fortunate enough to play for night
after night here in Europe. To see flags of so many different nations,
and to have these huge crowds gathered peacefully and joyfully is
the exact inspiration behind the words I felt the need to emphatically relay.
When attempting to make a plea for more peace in the world at a rock concert,
we are reflecting the feelings of all those we have come in contact with
so we may all have a better understanding of each other.

That’s not something I’m going to stop anytime soon. Call me naïve.
I’d rather be naïve, heartfelt and hopeful than resigned to say
nothing for fear of misinterpretation and retribution.

The majority of humans on this planet are more consumed by the
pursuit of love, health, family, food and shelter than any kind of war.

War hurts. It hurts no matter which sides the bombs are falling on.

With all the global achievements in modern technology,
enhanced communication and information devices, cracking the
human genome, land rovers on Mars etc., do we really have to
resign ourselves to the devastating reality that conflict will be
resolved with bombs, murder and acts of barbarism?

We are such a remarkable species. Capable of creating beauty.
Capable of awe-inspiring advancements. We must be capable of
resolving conflicts without bloodshed.

I don’t know how to reconcile the peaceful rainbow of flags we see
each night at our concerts with the daily news of a dozen global
conflicts and their horrific consequences. I don’t know how to
process the feeling of guilt and complicity when I hear about the
deaths of a civilian family from a U.S. drone strike. But I know that
we can’t let the sadness turn into apathy. And I do know we are
better off when we reach out to each other.


“I hope someday you’ll join us,…”


Won’t you listen to what the man said.

— Eddie Vedder



:thumbsup: :peace: :heartbeat:

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:01 pm
by Iholdthepain
Now THAT'S a great response to all of this criticism he's been taking by the Jewish community...

and words I can definitely get behind...

:peace: & :heartbeat:

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:02 pm
by numbers
Yeah, that was a great response.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:11 pm
by Jorge
So, I'm confused. He's saying he likes war, right?

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:13 pm
by Rangi Guy
theplatypus wrote:So, I'm confused. He's saying he likes war, right?
He likes war, and he hates Israel

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:18 pm
by Strat
He's back peddling his comments regarding his hate for Israeli babies

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
i hate John Lennon quotes.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:20 pm
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:i hate John Lennon quotes.
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Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:20 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Ben Red, your rebuttal?

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:21 pm
by bodysnatcher
John Lenin

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:22 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Ben Red, your rebuttal?

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:24 pm
by numbers
Rangi Guy wrote:
theplatypus wrote:So, I'm confused. He's saying he likes war, right?
He likes war, and he hates Israel
He doesn't hate Israel, he doesn't acknowledge Israel's existence.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:25 pm
by Strat
Imagine all the schmuks

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:25 pm
by DeLima
I gotta give this round to Neil over Eddie. Eddie yelled, Neil at least did something. And if he wants to stick to the peace, love and music message, why not play Tel Aviv like Neil was going to? The message would have more meaning there.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:26 pm
by Strat
DeLima wrote:I gotta give this round to Neil over Eddie. Eddie yelled, Neil at least did something. And if he wants to stick to the peace, love and music message, why not play Tel Aviv like Neil was going to? The message would have more meaning there.

Actuall neil was kind of a pussy about it. "Safety concerns" as the official reason for cancellation. He could have spoke up.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:28 pm
by Strat
Bubbe in the Sky with Diamonds

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:29 pm
by Thejambi
DeLima wrote:I gotta give this round to Neil over Eddie. Eddie yelled, Neil at least did something. And if he wants to stick to the peace, love and music message, why not play Tel Aviv like Neil was going to? The message would have more meaning there.
He doesn't owe them anything. Great response.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:30 pm
by bodysnatcher
Working Class Gyro

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:30 pm
by DeLima
Strat wrote:
DeLima wrote:I gotta give this round to Neil over Eddie. Eddie yelled, Neil at least did something. And if he wants to stick to the peace, love and music message, why not play Tel Aviv like Neil was going to? The message would have more meaning there.

Actuall neil was kind of a pussy about it. "Safety concerns" as the official reason for cancellation. He could have spoke up.
I think Eddie's the pussy here. He yells and then delivers a kind of self-glorifying pacifist speech. Neil was gonna play Tel Aviv, and when he was forced to cancel, donates to cross-cultural art initiatives. That's actually trying to help.

Re: Ed Upsets Founder of "Bring Pearl Jam to Israel" Campaig

Posted: Wed July 16, 2014 10:32 pm
by Strat
DeLima wrote:
Strat wrote:
DeLima wrote:I gotta give this round to Neil over Eddie. Eddie yelled, Neil at least did something. And if he wants to stick to the peace, love and music message, why not play Tel Aviv like Neil was going to? The message would have more meaning there.

Actuall neil was kind of a pussy about it. "Safety concerns" as the official reason for cancellation. He could have spoke up.
I think Eddie's the pussy here. He yells and then delivers a kind of self-glorifying pacifist speech. Neil was gonna play Tel Aviv, and when he was forced to cancel, donates to cross-cultural art initiatives. That's actually trying to help.

Certainly but I still feel Neil could have said something. he seemed to have pulled out after mounting pressure from fans/musicians alike.