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Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:46 am
by stip
Birds in Hell wrote:
"Jar of Fliezzzzzzzzzz"
oh spenno...

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:13 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
"Jar of Fliezzzzzzzzzz"
oh spenno...
;)

What can I say, I love the AIC sludge (factory.)

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:11 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
Gods' Die wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
Whitey McTeeth wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Listening to SAP right now.

Brother is a beautiful song.
I love Got me Wrong...I especially love the version from their Unplugged.
I wish I could like it more, but the screw up in the final chorus annoys me every time where Jerry and Layne sing a different word - somebody messes up.
I love the separation of their voices in Uplugged's Got Me Wrong...I make that same mistake all the time that they made, so I let it slide. He without sin...and all that stuff.
:P Sin? They made a mistake. It's cool, just brings the show down a notch

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:30 pm
by KurtLeon
TDPDIH: Why so generic?

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:06 pm
by VinylGuy
KurtLeon wrote:TDPDIH: Why so generic?
where is it?

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:24 pm
by KurtLeon
VinylGuy wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:TDPDIH: Why so generic?
where is it?
It haven't leaked yet (as far as I know), but listening to the previews on Itunes... Yeah, they are pretty much all the same song.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:25 pm
by VinylGuy
KurtLeon wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:TDPDIH: Why so generic?
where is it?
It haven't leaked yet (as far as I know), but listening to the previews on Itunes... Yeah, they are pretty much all the same song.
yeah i listen to some of those...dont trust them at all.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:21 am
by Ghostface Killah
I'm sitting here listening to The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here. Yeah, this is still really good grungy metal rock stuff.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:53 am
by intodeep
i grabbed it last night but i haven't had a chance to listen. I have a 6 hour drive after work today i'm sure i'll form an opinion soon

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:50 pm
by bune

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:59 pm
by KurtLeon
I was listening to it yesterday...
Very generic, but not as bad as I thought.
Still, worst AIC album by far.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:02 pm
by VinylGuy
KurtLeon wrote:I was listening to it yesterday...
Very generic, but not as bad as I thought.
Still, worst AIC album by far.
i have it, listened to some of the songs...not impressed at all, but its not bad either. Still, this might be their weakest album like you say.
Jerry´s vocals sound like in DT and the songs seem to run for too long, a problem he had with that record too.

They need to change their producer for the next album.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:04 am
by VinylGuy
After a few listens, its a grower...they need another producer for sure, but still some of this songs are growing.
Stone and Voices are the most stronger ones, the later being another of those acoustic numbers Cantrell knows how to do.
The title track features some of the most classic aic guitars from their career, its almost like a b side from the Facelift era.
But most of the songs run for just too long, they are repetitive and derivate and its almost like a loop, something Cantrell is doing since Degradation Trip...why make a 6 minute song when you can have a really cool 3 minutes one?

And Jerry please, let William sing more.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:19 am
by Mojopin
I'm liking Voices and the title track a bit. For the title track, I think for the same reasons you are referring to, i.e. the guitars. And speaking of guitars, that guitar part about 2/3 through Low Ceiling is vintage Alice! There are some decent parts throughout the album...

For the most part though, I agree with a lot of it going on for too long and not trying enough 'new' directions, etc...

Can you imagine Layne singing on some of these? I can on the title track! :o

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:52 pm
by mf
VinylGuy wrote:Jerry´s vocals sound like in DT and the songs seem to run for too long, a problem he had with that record too.
VinylGuy wrote:But most of the songs run for just too long, they are repetitive and derivate and its almost like a loop, something Cantrell is doing since Degradation Trip...why make a 6 minute song when you can have a really cool 3 minutes one?

And Jerry please, let William sing more.
I disagree with all of this. i guess we like completely different aspects of AIC. i love Jerry's solo records, especially Degradation Trip. and i love the fact that William is almost non-existent on this album. i've only listened to it once so far but it's actually exceeded my (admittedly low) expectations. i'm pleasantly surprised by how much i'm digging this.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:54 pm
by Birds in Hell
mf wrote:i've only listened to it once so far but it's actually exceeded my (admittedly low) expectations. i'm pleasantly surprised by how much i'm digging this.
Well, I guess I'll give this at least one listen.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 2:42 pm
by EJ
I'm really digging the track The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here. Other than that, I've only heard Hollow & Stone. Those two were fairly generic, but not bad. I may pick this one up.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 2:45 pm
by VinylGuy
mf wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Jerry´s vocals sound like in DT and the songs seem to run for too long, a problem he had with that record too.
VinylGuy wrote:But most of the songs run for just too long, they are repetitive and derivate and its almost like a loop, something Cantrell is doing since Degradation Trip...why make a 6 minute song when you can have a really cool 3 minutes one?

And Jerry please, let William sing more.
I disagree with all of this. i guess we like completely different aspects of AIC. i love Jerry's solo records, especially Degradation Trip. and i love the fact that William is almost non-existent on this album. i've only listened to it once so far but it's actually exceeded my (admittedly low) expectations. i'm pleasantly surprised by how much i'm digging this.
i love his solo records too, though i prefer Boggy Depot over Degradation Trip. Most of the songs from that album are screaming for editing because they are really heavy and sludge but also repetitive. This is something that he brought to this new incarnation of AIC since their last record, but its very noticeable in the new one.

As for William, i think he is a talented guy and should have a more important vocal appearance, even if Jerry is an ok singer too.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:36 pm
by Kevin Davis
I saw Jerry on the Degradation Trip tour. Somehow the local rock station got him to do a meet and greet before the show--he seemed bored out of his mind the entire time, until the girl in front of us got to the table. She had her young daughter with her, so Jerry immediately took one of the station ID balloons from the table, sucked all the helium from it, and started singing "We Represent the Lollipop Guild" to her. Who knows if she got the reference, but she thought it was hysterical.

Then I got to the table and asked if he would be willing to let me interview him for my college newspaper (I was a journalism student at the time), and he said, "Not a chance in hell." That's fine, I probably would have told me no too.

The show was the night before Halloween, so when we got to the theater, there was this guy walking around the lobby dressed as some kind of zombie, face painted and the whole works, wandering aimlessly around and harmlessly messing with everybody. He was pushing around in the audience during the opening band's set too. Eventually it comes time for Jerry's set, and the zombie guy gets up onstage and starts singing. I was 18 so that really blew my mind.

Unfortunately it wasn't much of a show. He had some Layne impersonator with him for the AIC material (not sure if it's the same guy they have now), and he really wasn't good. Fun night, though.

Re: Alice in Chains

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:58 pm
by VinylGuy
Kevin Davis wrote:I saw Jerry on the Degradation Trip tour. Somehow the local rock station got him to do a meet and greet before the show--he seemed bored out of his mind the entire time, until the girl in front of us got to the table. She had her young daughter with her, so Jerry immediately took one of the station ID balloons from the table, sucked all the helium from it, and started singing "We Represent the Lollipop Guild" to her. Who knows if she got the reference, but she thought it was hysterical.

Then I got to the table and asked if he would be willing to let me interview him for my college newspaper (I was a journalism student at the time), and he said, "Not a chance in hell." That's fine, I probably would have told me no too.

The show was the night before Halloween, so when we got to the theater, there was this guy walking around the lobby dressed as some kind of zombie, face painted and the whole works, wandering aimlessly around and harmlessly messing with everybody. He was pushing around in the audience during the opening band's set too. Eventually it comes time for Jerry's set, and the zombie guy gets up onstage and starts singing. I was 18 so that really blew my mind.

Unfortunately it wasn't much of a show. He had some Layne impersonator with him for the AIC material (not sure if it's the same guy they have now), and he really wasn't good. Fun night, though.
Will toured with him on that tour so he might be that guy, yeah. The band he had on DT was incredible, Trujillo and Bordin?
Amazing.