Red Mosquito

Only in the sense of quiet verse / LOUD CHORUS / quiet verse / LOUD CHORUS / quiet verse / LOUD CHORUS which was basically the hallmark of every memorable "grunge" song of the period unless you completely detest Nirvana for it.

stip wrote:it was the first song I heard off of Yield and my first thought was 'oh god, eddie lost his voice'. I was so relieved when I heard other songs.

stip wrote:

okay, that does look kinda cool

That's the formula. And it can work fine. But there should be a reason for the switch. What meaningful point is the chorus making? And was it compelling enough in its execution to justify destroying the reflective space the verses created. I can probably come up with a reason, but the execution is clumsy and does the song a disservice

stip wrote:But there should be a reason for the switch. What meaningful point is the chorus making?

That he has a dog. Dogs are fucking awesome. If you have one you should be pretty fucking psyched. I actually think the chorus should be even louder.

WHY DO YOU HATE DOGS, STIP?

stip has issues

I just like my dogs to be quiet

stip wrote:That's the formula. And it can work fine. But there should be a reason for the switch. What meaningful point is the chorus making? And was it compelling enough in its execution to justify destroying the reflective space the verses created. I can probably come up with a reason, but the execution is clumsy and does the song a disservice

Well, I can't really dispute this cause I disagree with the idea that it destroys the reflective space the verses create. Sure, in the moment it gets louder but it's not like getting louder discounts what came before.

Why can you write a reply, without being logged in, a reply which you then LOSE *after* being asked to login? That's ridiculous.

Anyway, so that's what happened. I actually do think the loud chorus suits the song, semantically. Leaving aside the fact that I think it's a bit much to ask for "meaningful points" in the instrumental parts of rock songs, the verses of Pilate are quite insular and self-refective, while the chorus bursts in with a highly metaphorical, bizarre, funny yet also serious political point about apathy, power and obedience. Probably.

stip wrote:I just like my dogs to be quiet

So Pearl Jam. Much Yield. WOW.

That dog's favorite song is Pilate. And all stip wants to do is complain about it. Why does that dog's joy threaten you, stip?

That dog pulls The Snowboy's sleigh as a day job.

Lament wrote:That dog's favorite song is Pilate. And all stip wants to do is complain about it. Why does that dog's joy threaten you, stip?

only things with two legs deserve to be happy

stip wrote:

Lament wrote:That dog's favorite song is Pilate. And all stip wants to do is complain about it. Why does that dog's joy threaten you, stip?

only things with two legs deserve to be happy

poor Harmless

They don't have to work

Anyone else prefer Pilate to MFC?

That post may have been worth half a star in its overall rankings

While hardly a flaw , I think the Pilate chorus is a bit overrated

Lament wrote:

HAHAHA. Best PJ meme for a while.