Red Mosquito

numbers wrote:It would be like if some defensive specialist backup 1B that comes into games in the 8th inning won a gold glove.

Like Doug Mientkiewicz winning it in 2004 or something.

Exactly the guy I had in mind.

So if the Cubs win it all under Theo then he's a Hall of Fame GM/executive, right?

I think his tenure in Boston is incredibly overrated but how could he not get in after that?

cutuphalfdead wrote:So if the Cubs win it all under Theo then he's a Hall of Fame GM/executive, right?

I think his tenure in Boston is incredibly overrated but how could he not get in after that?

I'm pretty sure if the Cubs win the World Series, everyone involved with the team is automatically inducted the next day.

Can we please get rid of the stupid, arbitrary cap on the number of candidates appearing on the ballots? And please, can we make the ballots public? I don't ask much. Thanks.

Chris_H_2 wrote:Can we please get rid of the stupid, arbitrary cap on the number of candidates appearing on the ballots? And please, can we make the ballots public? I don't ask much. Thanks.

My concern is that it wouldn't matter if the cap was removed because so many of the voters are only voting for the absolute top candidates and wouldn't add any of the other guys anyway.

Oddly enough, a lot of those guys are probably the same ones who were trying to get Jack Morris in.

HOF nominees announced today

E.H. Ruddock wrote:HOF nominees announced today

Actually the inductees are announced today.

@SkitchP wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:HOF nominees announced today

Actually the inductees are announced today.

Yeah that too

Smoltz
Martinez
Johnson

[no drama whatsoever]

Chris_H_2 wrote:Smoltz
Martinez
Johnson

[no drama whatsoever]

I think Biggio is a lock. Piazza will probably be very close.

@SkitchP wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:Smoltz
Martinez
Johnson

[no drama whatsoever]

I think Biggio is a lock. Piazza will probably be very close.

Biggio should've been a lock last year but for some stupid voters' stupid beliefs that you can't elect some candidates the first time they're eligible (as if there's a specially recognized level of HOFer in Cooperstown).

Chris_H_2 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:Smoltz
Martinez
Johnson

[no drama whatsoever]

I think Biggio is a lock. Piazza will probably be very close.

Biggio should've been a lock last year but for some stupid voters' stupid beliefs that you can't elect some candidates the first time they're eligible (as if there's a specially recognized level of HOFer in Cooperstown).

wasn't last year his second year?

@SkitchP wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:Smoltz
Martinez
Johnson

[no drama whatsoever]

I think Biggio is a lock. Piazza will probably be very close.

Biggio should've been a lock last year but for some stupid voters' stupid beliefs that you can't elect some candidates the first time they're eligible (as if there's a specially recognized level of HOFer in Cooperstown).

wasn't last year his second year?

So he should've been a lock the last 2 years.

Even if some you leave the obvious steroid guys out (Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire) there should still be more than ten guys going in (Johnson, Pedro, Schilling, Mussina, Smoltz, Biggio, Bagwell, Piazza, Raines, Trammell, Walker, Edgar Martinez) with a few more who at least deserve some consideration (Kent, Sheffield).

Definitely think Raines and E. Martinez should go but probably won't.

philpritchard wrote:Even if some you leave the obvious steroid guys out (Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire) there should still be more than ten guys going in (Johnson, Pedro, Schilling, Mussina, Smoltz, Biggio, Bagwell, Piazza, Raines, Trammell, Walker, Edgar Martinez) with a few more who at least deserve some consideration (Kent, Sheffield).

I'm not so sure Martinez or Bagwell, but I think you can make a solid case for the others even if I don't agree.

Did you mean Larry Walker?

Fuck You Jobu wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Even if some you leave the obvious steroid guys out (Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire) there should still be more than ten guys going in (Johnson, Pedro, Schilling, Mussina, Smoltz, Biggio, Bagwell, Piazza, Raines, Trammell, Walker, Edgar Martinez) with a few more who at least deserve some consideration (Kent, Sheffield).

I'm not so sure Martinez or Bagwell, but I think you can make a solid case for the others even if I don't agree.

Did you mean Larry Walker?

Yeah.

philpritchard wrote:

Fuck You Jobu wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Even if some you leave the obvious steroid guys out (Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire) there should still be more than ten guys going in (Johnson, Pedro, Schilling, Mussina, Smoltz, Biggio, Bagwell, Piazza, Raines, Trammell, Walker, Edgar Martinez) with a few more who at least deserve some consideration (Kent, Sheffield).

I'm not so sure Martinez or Bagwell, but I think you can make a solid case for the others even if I don't agree.

Did you mean Larry Walker?

Yeah.

I'm having a hard time with that one and I'm a Rockies fan. His split number away from CO really bother me. Make your case?

I think today....

Pedro
Randy Johnson
Biggio

maybe Bagwell

get in.

Smoltz will get in but I think it will be a few years. Same with Schilling.

It's disgraceful that Tim Raines isn't in already.