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Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Sun September 04, 2016 10:22 pm
by epilogue
Kaius wrote:Idk. I like the move. They're a good team that doesn't want to throw a season away before it even got started. Bradford is a big upgrade over Hill, and they could quite feasibly win the division again this year.
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Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Sun September 04, 2016 10:24 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
wow, he ran straight into him

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Sun September 04, 2016 11:42 pm
by Kaius
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:Idk. I like the move. They're a good team that doesn't want to throw a season away before it even got started. Bradford is a big upgrade over Hill, and they could quite feasibly win the division again this year.
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What does Mark Sanchez have to do with this?

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Mon September 05, 2016 2:10 am
by Green Habit
My guess is the Broncos were trying to trade Sanchez to MIN before they got Bradford.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Mon September 05, 2016 2:16 am
by Kaius
Good for MIN.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Mon September 05, 2016 2:20 am
by Green Habit
Kaius wrote:Good for MIN.
I still don't think the difference between Bradford vs. Sanchez or anyone else is a 1st and 4th rounder.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Mon September 05, 2016 3:25 pm
by @SkitchP
Kaius wrote:Idk. I like the move. They're a good team that doesn't want to throw a season away before it even got started. Bradford is a big upgrade over Hill, and they could quite feasibly win the division again this year.

I was going to post the stats from the year Hill backed up Bradford. But Bradford was hurt that entire season.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Mon September 05, 2016 7:01 pm
by Kaius
Green Habit wrote:
Kaius wrote:Good for MIN.
I still don't think the difference between Bradford vs. Sanchez or anyone else is a 1st and 4th rounder.
They were in a tough position with little time to make a move. I don't know what 36 year old Hill was showing throughout camp, but Bradford can definitely still play, despite his injury history. As far as the draft picks: Vikings have an extra 3rd and 4th next year and are a young team without any glaring holes depth wise, or they could move up next year if the guy they want is there. It's a win now league. Most of these coaches and FO's don't get more than 3-4 years to build. That kind of pressure forces moves like these.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:55 am
by Strat
Kaius wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Kaius wrote:Good for MIN.
I still don't think the difference between Bradford vs. Sanchez or anyone else is a 1st and 4th rounder.
They were in a tough position with little time to make a move. I don't know what 36 year old Hill was showing throughout camp, but Bradford can definitely still play, despite his injury history. As far as the draft picks: Vikings have an extra 3rd and 4th next year and are a young team without any glaring holes depth wise, or they could move up next year if the guy they want is there. It's a win now league. Most of these coaches and FO's don't get more than 3-4 years to build. That kind of pressure forces moves like these.
MN doesn't need those top draft picks right now. We have a solid team front to back with not many holes. We are a young team but solid. We are win now because Peterson. We dont need a fantastic QB. Bridgewater wasn't a fantastic QB. We just needed someone to get the job done. A starter. If Bradford stays healthy, with the support he has around him now, we still have a chance to make a push for the super bowl. At least much more of a chance than Hill who has never been a starting QB.

If the Vikings do win the super bowl (wishful thinking) losing a bottom tier first draft pick isn't that huge of a deal (if bridgewater comes back healthy the next season)

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 3:49 am
by Kaius
Strat wrote:
Kaius wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Kaius wrote:Good for MIN.
I still don't think the difference between Bradford vs. Sanchez or anyone else is a 1st and 4th rounder.
They were in a tough position with little time to make a move. I don't know what 36 year old Hill was showing throughout camp, but Bradford can definitely still play, despite his injury history. As far as the draft picks: Vikings have an extra 3rd and 4th next year and are a young team without any glaring holes depth wise, or they could move up next year if the guy they want is there. It's a win now league. Most of these coaches and FO's don't get more than 3-4 years to build. That kind of pressure forces moves like these.
MN doesn't need those top draft picks right now. We have a solid team front to back with not many holes. We are a young team but solid. We are win now because Peterson. We dont need a fantastic QB. Bridgewater wasn't a fantastic QB. We just needed someone to get the job done. A starter. If Bradford stays healthy, with the support he has around him now, we still have a chance to make a push for the super bowl. At least much more of a chance than Hill who has never been a starting QB.

If the Vikings do win the super bowl (wishful thinking) losing a bottom tier first draft pick isn't that huge of a deal (if bridgewater comes back healthy the next season)
:thumbsup:

And Bradford has never had a team like this around him either. STL wanted him to be the guy. Philly wanted him to be the guy. MN just needs him to hand it off All Day, complete a few passes to a wide open Diggs, and not run into the back of his own lineman and fumble.

Having said that... Go Bears.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 1:55 pm
by Green Habit
Strat wrote:We are a young team but solid. We are win now because Peterson.
Really? It seems like the Vikings have done a good job building the team from their 3-13 abyss a few years back. I would hope for their sake that at this point they'd diversified their team more so that they're no longer completely fucked if they lose Peterson for an extended period.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:01 pm
by epilogue
Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:Idk. I like the move. They're a good team that doesn't want to throw a season away before it even got started. Bradford is a big upgrade over Hill, and they could quite feasibly win the division again this year.
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What does Mark Sanchez have to do with this?
I was saying that I think your post was the butt fumble of posts, Kaius. All in good fun. All in good fun.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:24 pm
by Kaius
Green Habit wrote:
Strat wrote:We are a young team but solid. We are win now because Peterson.
Really? It seems like the Vikings have done a good job building the team from their 3-13 abyss a few years back. I would hope for their sake that at this point they'd diversified their team more so that they're no longer completely fucked if they lose Peterson for an extended period.
I think they have, but losing your QB is something pretty much no team can legitimately prepare for. I don't think Strat is saying those things in contrast, either. Both statements are true. They have a young, talented team on both sides of the ball and a hall of fame running back that they want to win a championship with. They think Bradford gives them a better shot at doing that over Hill or whoever else was available. Whether he was the best guy "available" we may never know, but a well-built team giving up a 1st rounder to (theoretically) upgrade your QB position so as not to be forced into being one-dimensional as you try to defend a division championship is not egregious to me. Let's not forget they almost beat the Seahawks last year if not for a bad FG attempt.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:26 pm
by Kaius
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:Idk. I like the move. They're a good team that doesn't want to throw a season away before it even got started. Bradford is a big upgrade over Hill, and they could quite feasibly win the division again this year.
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What does Mark Sanchez have to do with this?
I was saying that I think your post was the butt fumble of posts, Kaius. All in good fun. All in good fun.
I'll fumble your butt.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:50 pm
by epilogue
Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:Idk. I like the move. They're a good team that doesn't want to throw a season away before it even got started. Bradford is a big upgrade over Hill, and they could quite feasibly win the division again this year.
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What does Mark Sanchez have to do with this?
I was saying that I think your post was the butt fumble of posts, Kaius. All in good fun. All in good fun.
I'll fumble your butt.
:naughty:

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:52 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
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Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 2:53 pm
by Kaius
And just to continue since I've already spent far too much time on this... I looked up some numbers, and Bradford seems like the perfect fit on paper. He is an underrated athlete and strong play action QB with good short throw accuracy and excellent deep ball accuracy. I would worry about having to learn a playbook so quickly, but otherwise, if I'm a Vikings fan, I'm feeling a lot better after last week.

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Tue September 06, 2016 7:16 pm
by CopperTom
Picks

Cardinals
Panthers
Packers
Giants

Vikings
Buccaneers


Steelers
Patriots
Chiefs
Jaguars

Bengals
Raiders

Steelers over Cardinals

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Wed September 07, 2016 7:32 pm
by epilogue
wat

Re: 2016 NFL Season

Posted: Wed September 07, 2016 7:47 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
durdencommatyler wrote:wat
those are his conference winners/wildcards and super bowl pick.