Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Wed April 09, 2025 10:10 pm
What?
It's like.... tomorrow
It's like.... tomorrow
But I want it NOWepilogue wrote:What?
It's like.... tomorrow
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Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
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Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Thu April 10, 2025 8:17 pm
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Thu April 10, 2025 11:07 pm
Ensign9 wrote:But I want it NOWepilogue wrote:What?
It's like.... tomorrow
I'm pretty fucking excited, too. It does feel too far away.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Wed April 16, 2025 11:53 am
That monologue by Skarsgard at the end of Episode 10 is the best thing ever written for Star Wars.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Thu April 17, 2025 1:08 am
Marva?B wrote:That monologue by Skarsgard at the end of Episode 10 is the best thing ever written for Star Wars.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Thu April 17, 2025 12:05 pm
I prefer Mava's monologue to any other in the series. But they are all good and effective.Ensign9 wrote:Marva?B wrote:That monologue by Skarsgard at the end of Episode 10 is the best thing ever written for Star Wars.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Thu April 17, 2025 12:25 pm
To be fair, I'm in a rewatch, and haven't gotten that far yet.
Serkis' announcement at the prison wasn't too shabby either.
I feel like Leida Mothma has a future in the rebellion, and that's a show I would watch.
Serkis' announcement at the prison wasn't too shabby either.
I feel like Leida Mothma has a future in the rebellion, and that's a show I would watch.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 6:42 pm
OK, I finished my rewatch. Skarsgard's speech about sacrifice is WAY better than Marva's speech.
The speech at the end is so emotional b/c of the funeral and the people around it, but the words of the speech. Skarsgard all the way!
The speech at the end is so emotional b/c of the funeral and the people around it, but the words of the speech. Skarsgard all the way!
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 6:55 pm
I'm sure no one here will be shocked to hear me say that I find the Skarsgard speech overrated. It's not bad, obviously, but it's pretty flowery and overwrought. From a pure writing standpoint, Marva's is way better. And from an emotional standpoint, Marva's moved me more. But, again, why fight about it? You like what you like. If it moves you, it moves you. Nothing wrong with any of that.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 7:10 pm
I would argue that you're emotionally moved by the scene in which Marva's speech takes place.
Luthen? is that his name? His speech is just all him.
Luthen? is that his name? His speech is just all him.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 7:15 pm
I would argue.... well, you don't really want to hear my thoughts on this. I'll save it for the sake of discourse. But I have very strong feelings about the people (mostly men) who prefer Luthen's speech.B wrote:I would argue that you're emotionally moved by the scene in which Marva's speech takes place.
Luthen? is that his name? His speech is just all him.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 7:20 pm
incels ruin everything.epilogue wrote:I would argue.... well, you don't really want to hear my thoughts on this. I'll save it for the sake of discourse. But I have very strong feelings about the people (mostly men) who prefer Luthen's speech.B wrote:I would argue that you're emotionally moved by the scene in which Marva's speech takes place.
Luthen? is that his name? His speech is just all him.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 7:21 pm
B wrote:incels ruin everything.epilogue wrote:I would argue.... well, you don't really want to hear my thoughts on this. I'll save it for the sake of discourse. But I have very strong feelings about the people (mostly men) who prefer Luthen's speech.B wrote:I would argue that you're emotionally moved by the scene in which Marva's speech takes place.
Luthen? is that his name? His speech is just all him.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 7:22 pm
Now I hate the Luthen speech.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 9:00 pm
His speech is about selflessness and the responsibility of those with the power to act to do so. To build and lift up those who will make the same sacrifice for a greater future they may never see. A rejection of ego, idealism, and glory in favor of conviction. Like a variation on noblesse oblige... a nobility of conviction if you will. It's mirrored brilliantly from R1 with Galen Erso's plot, who makes the same choice not to react (like Lyra does when he is taken or like Marva's speech inspires), but to respond by a life dedicated to building a path to victory for the Rebellion, a response that inspires Jyn to do the same and ultimately leads to victory over the Empire. Luthen is to Cassian as Galen is to Jyn. This is the underlying theme of Andor and R1, that these personal and often invisible sacrifices are the foundation upon which freedom is built and make hope, particularly A New Hope, possible. Not twirly space magic, but conviction that in everyone is the power build the future. That's the real 'force'.B wrote:Now I hate the Luthen speech.
It's perfect and you were right to love it.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 9:16 pm
If only we could find more dudes on the Internet to over explain while simultaneously missing the point. Maybe we could solve all our problems.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 10:01 pm
epilogue wrote: But, again, why fight about it? You like what you like. If it moves you, it moves you. Nothing wrong with any of that.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 10:07 pm
Hot take, both speeches are great.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Fri April 18, 2025 10:38 pm
I liked it because it was defining for Andor. Ever since Rogue One he's been someone who became a horrible person in order to do the right thing.
Marva's speech could be slotted into any Star Wars. Luthen's speech could only happen with these people, at this time, in this place.
Marva's speech could be slotted into any Star Wars. Luthen's speech could only happen with these people, at this time, in this place.
Re: Star Wars: Andor (Disney+)
Posted: Sat April 19, 2025 2:27 am
This is my fav speech in Star Wars
“Princess Leia Organa, you are wise, discerning, kindhearted. These are qualities that came from your mother. But you are also passionate and fearless, forthright. And these are gifts from your father. Both were exceptional people who bore an exceptional daughter."
“Princess Leia Organa, you are wise, discerning, kindhearted. These are qualities that came from your mother. But you are also passionate and fearless, forthright. And these are gifts from your father. Both were exceptional people who bore an exceptional daughter."