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Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 6:31 pm
by Self
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Self wrote:It took me a while to find it.
I always spell egalitarianism wrong
:lol:

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 6:32 pm
by Self
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I have no idea why you're getting so hostile and weird about this, dude. Jesus Christ.
I feel bad for doing that, LV. Mickey used to make a lot of new friends around here with that posting style.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 6:59 pm
by tommymtcom
You did good, self

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 7:03 pm
by Birds in Hell
RM schtick is the worst.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 7:21 pm
by Self
tommymtcom wrote:You did good, self
Thanks, Tommy.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 7:23 pm
by Jorge
Self wrote:Suck a dick. If you bothered reading, you'd realize that nowhere in here did I say that music is objective. It is not subjective appreciation that I take issue with; it's the naive idea that all music is good music if it expresses emotion (and variations on that idea). There's no denying that there's a huge area of subjective appreciation in music, as in any form of art. But in any form of art, there are also objective standards, and if a song doesn't operate within these objective standards (creative use of line, creative use of metaphor, creative use of language, multiplicity of meaning, authenticity of voice), it's usually drivel.
I love you

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 7:24 pm
by Jorge
Birds in Hell wrote:RM schtick is the worst.
OK yes but that series of posts will never not make me laugh. :heartbeat: angry early-20s Mickey.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 7:28 pm
by epilogue
If I'd been around earlier today, I would have stopped Jordan from falling into that trap. And RM shtick is the worst. And those posts were great, Self. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:36 pm
by Leatherhead
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:38 pm
by tommymtcom
Leatherhead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.
I think that's a misuse of the word opinion. That not all Muslims are terrorists is a quantifiable fact. You can't really have an opinion on facts.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:43 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Leatherhead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.
I was joking. As Tommy said, opinions can only be wrong if we're talking about facts.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:46 pm
by washing machine
tommymtcom wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.
I think that's a misuse of the word opinion. That not all Muslims are terrorists is a quantifiable fact. You can't really have an opinion on facts.
If you are Muslim, you should not only be allowed to listen to music but encouraged to listen to music.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:54 pm
by epilogue
washing machine wrote:
tommymtcom wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.
I think that's a misuse of the word opinion. That not all Muslims are terrorists is a quantifiable fact. You can't really have an opinion on facts.
If you are Muslim, you should not only be allowed to listen to music but encouraged to listen to music.
What if you're not Muslim?

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:57 pm
by Leatherhead
durdencommatyler wrote:
washing machine wrote:
tommymtcom wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.
I think that's a misuse of the word opinion. That not all Muslims are terrorists is a quantifiable fact. You can't really have an opinion on facts.
If you are Muslim, you should not only be allowed to listen to music but encouraged to listen to music.
What if you're not Muslim?
Hmmm, allowed but not encouraged?

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Fri April 15, 2016 10:59 pm
by washing machine
durdencommatyler wrote:
washing machine wrote:
tommymtcom wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote: Just because one person's opinions may be "better" (more informed, more articulate), it is still just that - an opinion. You cannot say there is anything objective about it.
You already said opinions can be wrong, somewhere. If someone has an opinion that all Muslims are terrorists, they're opinion is objectively wrong.
I think that's a misuse of the word opinion. That not all Muslims are terrorists is a quantifiable fact. You can't really have an opinion on facts.
If you are Muslim, you should not only be allowed to listen to music but encouraged to listen to music.
What if you're not Muslim?
Hmm. That's a puzzler.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Sat April 16, 2016 3:55 am
by chewm
Who cares about this shit anyways?

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Sat April 16, 2016 11:04 am
by zeb
chewm wrote:Who cares about this shit anyways?
Philosophers for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Sat April 16, 2016 4:28 pm
by McParadigm
I can't wait to find out which Pearl Jam fans on this Star Wars message board side with Heidegger on the question of aesthetics and art criticism.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Sat April 16, 2016 4:58 pm
by BurtReynolds
:haha:

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Sat April 16, 2016 5:08 pm
by epilogue
Yeah, that was a great backhanded take-down of everyone on the board, McP. Good job. :thumbsup: