Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:Mark is really amazing in this documentary.

The confirmation bias is with you, young Anders


You’re also ignoring context but ok. If you insist.

wat

You won’t understand my comment above until you have seen the making of doco.

Oh

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:Mark is really amazing in this documentary.

The confirmation bias is with you, young Anders


You’re also ignoring context but ok. If you insist.

wat

You won’t understand my comment above until you have seen the making of doco.

Oh

I really meant that he was amazing, in acting, in emotion, in powerful scenes, in honesty. No hidden agenda, intentions or thoughts about it.

Jack Whites new album is his TLJ?

Strat wrote:Im going to watch it again tonight.

I’m turning it on right now.


Or is it tuning me on?

Strat wrote:Jack Whites new album is his TLJ?

Yeah, maybe.

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:Mark is really amazing in this documentary.

The confirmation bias is with you, young Anders


You’re also ignoring context but ok. If you insist.

wat

You won’t understand my comment above until you have seen the making of doco.

Oh

I really meant that he was amazing, in acting, in emotion, in powerful scenes, in honesty. No hidden agenda, intentions or thoughts about it.

To be completely fair he only speaks what, twice to camera?
And both times he declares his unhappiness and both times he goes on to show his resolve to make it brilliant and do his best regardless of his feelings.

It’s a field day for people who want to go Cherry picking quotes out of context but when you take the whole quote in and realise that he gave such an amazing performance despite being unhappy, it robs him of the merit and credit he deserves.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:Mark is really amazing in this documentary.

The confirmation bias is with you, young Anders


You’re also ignoring context but ok. If you insist.

wat

You won’t understand my comment above until you have seen the making of doco.

Oh

I really meant that he was amazing, in acting, in emotion, in powerful scenes, in honesty. No hidden agenda, intentions or thoughts about it.

To be completely fair he only speaks what, twice to camera?
And both times he declares his unhappiness and both times he goes on to show his resolve to make it brilliant and do his best regardless of his feelings.

It’s a field day for people who want to go Cherry picking quotes out of context but when you take the whole quote in and realise that he gave such an amazing performance despite being unhappy, it robs him of the merit and credit he deserves.

Look, Mark Hamill is no doubt successful in his life but being thrust back into star wars was most likely very very fucking exciting for him. For him to learn that its not all about him/luke skywalker anymore...Im sure took some serious time to get over

Strat wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:Mark is really amazing in this documentary.

The confirmation bias is with you, young Anders


You’re also ignoring context but ok. If you insist.

wat

You won’t understand my comment above until you have seen the making of doco.

Oh

I really meant that he was amazing, in acting, in emotion, in powerful scenes, in honesty. No hidden agenda, intentions or thoughts about it.

To be completely fair he only speaks what, twice to camera?
And both times he declares his unhappiness and both times he goes on to show his resolve to make it brilliant and do his best regardless of his feelings.

It’s a field day for people who want to go Cherry picking quotes out of context but when you take the whole quote in and realise that he gave such an amazing performance despite being unhappy, it robs him of the merit and credit he deserves.

Look, Mark Hamill is no doubt successful in his life but being thrust back into star wars was most likely very very fucking exciting for him. For him to learn that its not all about him/luke skywalker anymore...Im sure took some serious time to get over

Absolutely. And all of us too. Cried my Fucking eyes out the first time, watching him and knowing what he was about to do and hoping he wouldn’t.

Now I know it serves a bigger better purpose and most true to Obi wan and the Jedi and the story than any other option.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:Mark is really amazing in this documentary.

The confirmation bias is with you, young Anders


You’re also ignoring context but ok. If you insist.

wat

You won’t understand my comment above until you have seen the making of doco.

Oh

I really meant that he was amazing, in acting, in emotion, in powerful scenes, in honesty. No hidden agenda, intentions or thoughts about it.

To be completely fair he only speaks what, twice to camera?
And both times he declares his unhappiness and both times he goes on to show his resolve to make it brilliant and do his best regardless of his feelings.

It’s a field day for people who want to go Cherry picking quotes out of context but when you take the whole quote in and realise that he gave such an amazing performance despite being unhappy, it robs him of the merit and credit he deserves.

For me he was the absolute star of the documentary. He's in many scenes, stole every one of them, if he talked to us, or if he was acting and reacting.

I think the movie is poor in many ways, and I don't need to go cherry picking to say so, and that's not why I liked Mark in the documentary either.

stip wrote:and reading some of the character complaints on the prior page - a lot of this is just missing things because these are very nuanced characters for the most part, and characters in star wars have historically been broad archtypes.

I wouldn't call these characters nuanced. They are basically spouting template style sayings (I can't think of the word for it) that acts as a character descriptor. It was even in The Force Awakens a bit (especially whenever Finn talks)

in TLJ it's

Holdo/Poe's "spark" crap

Rose's "we must fight for love " or whatever she was saying
DJ said something too. I forget.

when most of the dialogue out of the characters are just one-line (idiom? epithet? I can't find the word!) it's not nuanced.

When movie dialogue sounds like trailer dialogue, it's not nuanced.

When I get this from the library, I'll watch and try to explain what I'm thinking.

Luke and Leia particularly are far more nuanced than anyone in the OT imo. As is kylo and even Hux. There’s far more depth on show and motivations to each character.

To such a degree I think it’s what’s putting people off.

People demanded luke be the hero and come save the day. And despite the fact that he does, it’s done in such a shocking and unexpected way, all our expectations being upended is where we find a lot of the cause of a lot of the complaints.

And I am not dismissing anyone at all for feeling that but I’m pretty sure everyone will come around to that and get on board in time.

blueviper wrote:

stip wrote:and reading some of the character complaints on the prior page - a lot of this is just missing things because these are very nuanced characters for the most part, and characters in star wars have historically been broad archtypes.

I wouldn't call these characters nuanced. They are basically spouting template style sayings (I can't think of the word for it) that acts as a character descriptor. It was even in The Force Awakens a bit (especially whenever Finn talks)

in TLJ it's

Holdo/Poe's "spark" crap

Rose's "we must fight for love " or whatever she was saying
DJ said something too. I forget.

when most of the dialogue out of the characters are just one-line (idiom? epithet? I can't find the word!) it's not nuanced.

When movie dialogue sounds like trailer dialogue, it's not nuanced.

When I get this from the library, I'll watch and try to explain what I'm thinking.

You can have bad or minimal dialogue and complex and nuanced characters. Those things are mutually exclusive. I don't think the writing/dialogue in TLJ is bad, but even if one does, that doesn't mean the characters are layered and interesting.

Cool

This video is AWESOME. Best seen on a phone
Lucasfilm has released a new behind the scenes featurette about the making of Star Wars: The Last Jedi on the official Star Wars YouTube channel. The featurette focuses on the creation of the musical score for the film and features interviews with composer John Williams and writer/director Rian Johnson. What sets this featurette apart from the rest is that it is a 360 VR experience, giving fans a unique look around the recording studio during the scoring sessions and the films sets during production. The experience can be seen using your computer, your phone, or a VR headset that you load your phone into. You can check it out for yourself below,

Who’s the comedian?

Dammit Ruddo

dimejinky99 wrote:Who’s the comedian?

Dammit Rudder

Hey Dime, what's wrong?

Wtf, I didn't type that.

Dime

Oh shit.

Dime = d-i-m-e

Something's fucked up

That was awesome

oh april fools. Bunch of funny clowns.

Fuck star trek.