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Donald Trump (R)
59
44%
Joe Biden (D)
55
41%
Jacob Hornberger (L)
1
1%
Howie Hawkins (G)
1
1%
Other
1
1%
COVID-19
16
12%
 
Total votes: 133

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Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
Right. For many, Trump includes them by excluding others! Go for it, Joe!
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elliseamos wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
Right. For many, Trump includes them by excluding others! Go for it, Joe!
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:haha:

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Well, maybe instead they should learn to appreciate someone who won't lose the popular vote twice. Of course there are things to learn about Trump and his relationship to the base, but at the end of the day, I believe the only GOP candidate whose vote share he surpassed was McCain (since...?). Dems now have 2 over 50% in 12years (and +50% three times).
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Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
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washing machine wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
I don't know if they share his worst tendencies, but as of November 3rd, we know that they LITERALLY support them.
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B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
I don't know if they share his worst tendencies, but as of November 3rd, we know that they LITERALLY support them.
I don't think that a vote necessarily includes a whole hog endorsement of everything a candidate stands for. In fact, I can't for the life of me think of a politician in the history of the world who I support 100% of the time. Maybe I'm naïve in thinking this, but I think that's probably how the majority of voters think too.
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washing machine wrote:
B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
I don't know if they share his worst tendencies, but as of November 3rd, we know that they LITERALLY support them.
I don't think that a vote necessarily includes a whole hog endorsement of everything a candidate stands for. In fact, I can't for the life of me think of a politician in the history of the world who I support 100% of the time. Maybe I'm naïve in thinking this, but I think that's probably how the majority of voters think too.
I support this position, and Joe Biden is the perfect example for those on the left. BUT! For every rule, there are exceptions. I don't think Trump's views are all that unique, but he is somewhat of a unique celebrity. It's an interesting combination to see at the highest level, and I do think that the "are you ok with this" question is much more telling than usual. Telling of what? Depends on the person, I suppose, but it shows they're not put off by Trump acting like Trump even while occupying the most important job. This isn't good no matter how you interpret it.
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washing machine wrote:
B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
I don't know if they share his worst tendencies, but as of November 3rd, we know that they LITERALLY support them.
I don't think that a vote necessarily includes a whole hog endorsement of everything a candidate stands for. In fact, I can't for the life of me think of a politician in the history of the world who I support 100% of the time. Maybe I'm naïve in thinking this, but I think that's probably how the majority of voters think too.
They don't like his rage tweeting, crime, and corruption, but they love the kidnapping Mexican children and chasing blacks out of the suburbs so much that they'll put up with it?
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FUCK ICE
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B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
I don't know if they share his worst tendencies, but as of November 3rd, we know that they LITERALLY support them.
I don't think that a vote necessarily includes a whole hog endorsement of everything a candidate stands for. In fact, I can't for the life of me think of a politician in the history of the world who I support 100% of the time. Maybe I'm naïve in thinking this, but I think that's probably how the majority of voters think too.
They don't like his rage tweeting, crime, and corruption, but they love the kidnapping Mexican children and chasing blacks out of the suburbs so much that they'll put up with it?
I literally can't think of a response to this double down take.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Rob wrote:I don't think Trump's views are all that unique
I think this view completely misses the point of what Trump is all about, and how the GOP have positioned themselves in relationship to him.

His view is simple and singular: Kiss the ring, and I'll try to help you. Doesn't matter what your interests are. That's why the Republican party is currently trying to reconcile conventional free-market thinking with staunch protectionism; and evangelical ideology with the ruining of families and violent extremism; and veterans' affairs with the disparagement of our troops; free speech with cancel culture; and on and on...
Why did you cut me off there? Literally the next thing I said is that he's a unique celebrity. The loyalty is to him, not any particular view (even his!).
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FUCK ICE
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B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
B wrote:
washing machine wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Some sound thinking from Sen. Jon Tester on how the Dems can make inroads with rural voters:

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/n ... 99375.html

Interesting, I think he is largely correct. Here a similar stance from Michigan:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... war-436301


“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”


It really is that simple.
70 million people. How incredibly doom & gloom to assume that the overwhelming majority of this number share or support Trump's worst tendencies.
I don't know if they share his worst tendencies, but as of November 3rd, we know that they LITERALLY support them.
I don't think that a vote necessarily includes a whole hog endorsement of everything a candidate stands for. In fact, I can't for the life of me think of a politician in the history of the world who I support 100% of the time. Maybe I'm naïve in thinking this, but I think that's probably how the majority of voters think too.
They don't like his rage tweeting, crime, and corruption, but they love the kidnapping Mexican children and chasing blacks out of the suburbs so much that they'll put up with it?

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Well hey
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Where the fuck is the coup I've been promised here for months?!
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BurtReynolds wrote:Where the fuck is the coup I've been promised here for months?!
MAGA twitter is calling for Republican State governments to appoint pro Trump electors. Its getting sad.

Also kinda weird after the election was 'stolen' in 2016 the Dem local governments didn't try to improve their election systems. Now there is 0 impetus to do so as their guy won. How can we shame state and local election officials like we did in Florida after 2000 to improve their systems?
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simple schoolboy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:Where the fuck is the coup I've been promised here for months?!
MAGA twitter is calling for Republican State governments to appoint pro Trump electors. Its getting sad.

Also kinda weird after the election was 'stolen' in 2016 the Dem local governments didn't try to improve their election systems. Now there is 0 impetus to do so as their guy won. How can we shame state and local election officials like we did in Florida after 2000 to improve their systems?
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