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Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 2:15 am
by daft twat
VinylGuy wrote:Usher was alright. It was way lighter on scares and it features something Flanagan has been doing a lot since the hit of Hill House, which is very talkative charactes. They talk and talk and expose and point out, and sometimes is great (midnight mass) and sometimes its not.

All in all the series is fun and deserved a watch but its minor compared to other stuff in his career. The cast is amazing as always, specially Carla Gugino, Bruce Greenwood and Mark fucking Hamill.
Just watched the first ep. I enjoyed it. Tom Skerrit would have been the perfect Roderick Usher 15 years ago.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 2:42 am
by VinylGuy
yeah, good call. I think Timothy Hutton was going to play it, as Hutton was in Hill House and Flanagan keeps working with the same actors, but he was out because of those sexual assault allegations.

He would have been good but Greenwood is really good anyway. Flanagan know how to direct actors.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 2:48 am
by bada
Antlers. It had a lot of promise. There was a really good movie in there somewhere. It wasn't bad by any means just under baked.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 12:50 pm
by Bi_3
VinylGuy wrote:Usher was alright. It was way lighter on scares and it features something Flanagan has been doing a lot since the hit of Hill House, which is very talkative charactes. They talk and talk and expose and point out, and sometimes is great (midnight mass) and sometimes its not.

All in all the series is fun and deserved a watch but its minor compared to other stuff in his career. The cast is amazing as always, specially Carla Gugino, Bruce Greenwood and Mark fucking Hamill.
Totally agree. This was what killed midnight club and was a major distraction in Usher too. We know the Ushers are stand-ins for the Sackler family. We get it. Jeez.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 1:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
I love the Flanalogues, it's a real unique feature of his style; yes I agree it works best in Midnight Mass but I think the best argument for it in Usher is that it harks back to Poe's plush, verbose, more is more internal-thought prose style; I think Flanagan chose to nod at that even if it came across campy and laboured, and I like that

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 4:56 pm
by VinylGuy
I really like his dialogue and how good he is with actors. Im sure every actor want to work with him, he makes them shine. But i feel after Midnight Mass, he needs to dial that a bit down and focus on the scary parts more.

Seems the next project is a movie, and im exited about that because it would trim this a bit at least, and i hope he gets to be really scary again.

The cast for the movie is awesome! Matthew Lillard is onboard with pretty much everyone coming back, even Karen Gillian. And Mia Sara will be featured too!

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 1:50 pm
by Farmer John
Ms Harmless wrote:tonight I watched "Hurricane Season", a new beautifully disturbing Spanish-language chiller that won't garner as much attention as When Evil Lurks but it should
I watched both of these movies this weekend. Very different movies and hard to compare the two.

When Evil Lurks was effectively creepy a lot of the time with some outstanding moments and imagery. A few legit gasps. But yeah, not quite equal to the sum of its parts.

Hurricane Season was very good. I like the alternate POV framework. I was waiting for the “When Evil Lurks” part of it to kick in, but this movie does a great job of gradually pulling the rug out from underneath you.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 3:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
Farmer John wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:tonight I watched "Hurricane Season", a new beautifully disturbing Spanish-language chiller that won't garner as much attention as When Evil Lurks but it should
I watched both of these movies this weekend. Very different movies and hard to compare the two.

When Evil Lurks was effectively creepy a lot of the time with some outstanding moments and imagery. A few legit gasps. But yeah, not quite equal to the sum of its parts.

Hurricane Season was very good. I like the alternate POV framework. I was waiting for the “When Evil Lurks” part of it to kick in, but this movie does a great job of gradually pulling the rug out from underneath you.
yes, a much quieter film but in some ways more harrowing by being more subtle

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 3:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
I like movies without a hugely dramatic last act, which quietly draw their parts together the more you think about them afterwards; I thought Hurricane Season was just more assured in its method and message

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 4:33 pm
by Farmer John
Ms Harmless wrote:I like movies without a hugely dramatic last act, which quietly draw their parts together the more you think about them afterwards; I thought Hurricane Season was just more assured in its method and message
I tend to agree. A lot of times a “hugely dramatic last act” is the worst part of a movie.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 4:35 pm
by Farmer John
You know it's a good movie when you immediately want to go back and watch bits from the beginning again once everything's been tied together and you have the full context.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 5:27 pm
by Ms Harmless
absolutely

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 6:32 pm
by VinylGuy
Really exited about When Evil Lurks.

Next week..

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Sun November 05, 2023 6:33 pm
by VinylGuy
Saw X.

Very fun, gory. The fact that that make John the hero on this one is so fucking funny. Everything with the kid was laughable.
Spoiler: show
So the blonde doctor is alive? How come she never came back? The mid credits were alright but there are no hints of a follow up right?

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Wed November 08, 2023 2:57 am
by VinylGuy
Ep 2 of S3 of Chucky is very good. This season looks way better than the previous ones so far, and the gore its cool. Im still surprised on how fun and wicked this series is.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Thu November 09, 2023 10:30 pm
by Ms Harmless
"Sicilian Ghost Story" (2018) is a really good Italian horror / fantasy / coming-of-age romance film based on harrowing real events, and clearly inspired by Pan's Labyrinth

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Thu November 09, 2023 10:39 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:I love the Flanalogues, it's a real unique feature of his style; yes I agree it works best in Midnight Mass but I think the best argument for it in Usher is that it harks back to Poe's plush, verbose, more is more internal-thought prose style; I think Flanagan chose to nod at that even if it came across campy and laboured, and I like that
100%

Nailed it.

Also, though, I adored the monologues in Usher. Both Mary McDonnell and Carla Gugino are both such phenomenal talents that I would honestly watch an entire hour long monologue from each of them.

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Thu November 09, 2023 10:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
epilogue wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I love the Flanalogues, it's a real unique feature of his style; yes I agree it works best in Midnight Mass but I think the best argument for it in Usher is that it harks back to Poe's plush, verbose, more is more internal-thought prose style; I think Flanagan chose to nod at that even if it came across campy and laboured, and I like that
100%

Nailed it.

Also, though, I adored the monologues in Usher. Both Mary McDonnell and Carla Gugino are both such phenomenal talents that I would honestly watch an entire hour long monologue from each of them.
I would very much like to see a single-location, two-actor (or three, tops) movie from Flanagan, a la Benson & Moorhead

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Thu November 09, 2023 10:56 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I love the Flanalogues, it's a real unique feature of his style; yes I agree it works best in Midnight Mass but I think the best argument for it in Usher is that it harks back to Poe's plush, verbose, more is more internal-thought prose style; I think Flanagan chose to nod at that even if it came across campy and laboured, and I like that
100%

Nailed it.

Also, though, I adored the monologues in Usher. Both Mary McDonnell and Carla Gugino are both such phenomenal talents that I would honestly watch an entire hour long monologue from each of them.
I would very much like to see a single-location, two-actor (or three, tops) movie from Flanagan, a la Benson & Moorhead
:heartbeat:

yes please

Re: TVG Presents: All Things Horror.

Posted: Fri November 10, 2023 3:41 am
by bart
Watched Demons tonight. Love how gloopy this movie is.