Red Mosquito

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.

Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.

Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.

which is another reason why year changes shouldn't be part of this

If phil drops shitty Randy Johnson some other team shouldn't be able to get unhittable Randy Johnson as a result. You have a situation where the player in question is significantly more valuable to everyone but the team who is dropping him.

Year changes become an entirely risk free roster move and I don't like it at all.

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.

Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.

Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.

Let's say I take 2001 Buehrle with his five-and-change ERA and swap him for 2005 Mark Buehrle. There's just as much of a chance he goes from a serviceable but risky #3/#4 starter to an absolute disaster as there is that he suddenly becomes a consistent #2. So there's risk involved there too.

@SkitchP wrote:Year changes become an entirely risk free roster move and I don't like it at all.

And removes the risk of experimenting with an unproven season at the start of this thing.

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.

Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.

Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.

Let's say I take 2001 Buehrle with his five-and-change ERA and swap him for 2005 Mark Buehrle. There's just as much of a chance he goes from a serviceable but risky #3/#4 starter to an absolute disaster as there is that he suddenly becomes a consistent #2. So there's risk involved there too.

Unless you have previous data to inform your decision.

So, basically, everyone's worried about me getting good Randy Johnson back. You know I'm not allowed to make the playoffs anyway, right?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Lament wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.

Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.

Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.

Let's say I take 2001 Buehrle with his five-and-change ERA and swap him for 2005 Mark Buehrle. There's just as much of a chance he goes from a serviceable but risky #3/#4 starter to an absolute disaster as there is that he suddenly becomes a consistent #2. So there's risk involved there too.

Unless you have previous data to inform your decision.

I'm not sure I follow as to why having previous information makes a difference. We had previous information on like 90% of these players going into the tournament.

philpritchard wrote:So, basically, everyone's worried about me getting good Randy Johnson back. You know I'm not allowed to make the playoffs anyway, right?

I'd be against it if it were Skitch trying to get a better Verlander too.

philpritchard wrote:So, basically, everyone's worried about me getting good Randy Johnson back. You know I'm not allowed to make the playoffs anyway, right?

I am. I'm also worried about Pujols but fuck it. I'll find a good Chipper Jones because my offense needs help.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

philpritchard wrote:So, basically, everyone's worried about me getting good Randy Johnson back. You know I'm not allowed to make the playoffs anyway, right?

I'd be against it if it were Skitch trying to get a better Verlander too.

I don't have a Verlander

Does anybody even plan on waiving/trading/year-swapping if the option is available? Or are we just arguing over moves that no one in this tournament is even going to make?

I'd love to switch my .200 hitting A-Rod too but that would be bullshit.

Lament wrote:Does anybody even plan on waiving/trading/year-swapping if the option is available? Or are we just arguing over moves that no one in this tournament is even going to make?

We should really decide before we know what people plan to do.

Lament wrote:Does anybody even plan on waiving/trading/year-swapping if the option is available? Or are we just arguing over moves that no one in this tournament is even going to make?

Phil would be insane to keep his Randy Johnson. I planned on doing something on the waiver wire for sure.

But I would rather do nothing than allow year switching

Everyone gets to waive one player and replace him with 1968 Bob Gibson if he is a pitcher or 1927 Babe Ruth if he is a position player.

Done.

There was a Game 7 Pitchers category on jeopardy a couple of nights ago and I ran the category.

Was one of them "This Cuban exile's disastrous game seven start in 2002 cost the greatest player of his generation his best chance at winning a World Series ring and his manager Dusty Baker should never live down the decision to start him"?

no

For shame.

I saw Kirk Reuter a couple of months ago and I really wanted to go up to him and be like "Seriously though, how the fuck did you not start game seven?"