Red Mosquito

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spoiler: show

joking

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

dimejinky99 wrote:Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spennos seemingly overnight turn to an apologist for a fascist racist horror is far more alarming to me than anything lately.
Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spennos seemingly overnight turn to an apologist for a fascist racist horror is far more alarming to me than anything lately.
Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

Wow!
While I may not totally agree with him 100% - a lot of what he's written has made sense and hasn't been made with emotive language - he's actually coming across as one of the most sane people with regard to this. Him and McParadigm.....and of course Burt

bune wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

I have a thought on this but I can't get it fully-formed. It's kind of like, you have so much disdain for something and there's not a good way to vent it and it starts to bleed out to other fields. In this case, against fellow board posters who (I assume) have gotten along well enough in the past but this thing is the line in the sand. A marker, if you will.

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spennos seemingly overnight turn to an apologist for a fascist racist horror is far more alarming to me than anything lately.
Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

Wow!
While I may not totally agree with him 100% - a lot of what he's written has made sense and hasn't been made with emotive language - he's actually coming across as one of the most sane people with regard to this. Him and McParadigm.....and of course Burt

Strat wrote:

bune wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

I have a thought on this but I can't get it fully-formed. It's kind of like, you have so much disdain for something and there's not a good way to vent it and it starts to bleed out to other fields. In this case, against fellow board posters who (I assume) have gotten along well enough in the past but this thing is the line in the sand. A marker, if you will.

And, lets not forget, its like 3 am in Dublin right now and no doubt dime is out of star wars and booze.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spennos seemingly overnight turn to an apologist for a fascist racist horror is far more alarming to me than anything lately.
Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

Wow!
While I may not totally agree with him 100% - a lot of what he's written has made sense and hasn't been made with emotive language - he's actually coming across as one of the most sane people with regard to this. Him and McParadigm.....and of course Burt

So rationalising and supporting such a warped view just cos he dresses it up nice verbally makes it valid?


No. It doesn't. At all.

David Axelrod is CNN's senior political commentator and host of the podcast "The Axe Files." He was senior adviser to President Barack Obama and chief strategist for the 2008 and 2012 Obama campaigns. The opinions expressed in this commentary are his.

(CNN)I woke up this morning as an Alternative Fact.

In justifying the appointment of Steve Bannon, the president's chief strategist, to the National Security Council, Trump spokesman Sean Spicer cited my role in the Obama White House as a precedent. Spicer said press secretary Robert Gibbs and I attended classified National Security Council meetings "all the time."
That is simply not true.

As a senior adviser to President Obama in 2009, I had the opportunity to witness the fateful deliberations of his National Security Council Principals committee over the strategy the U.S would pursue in the war with Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I was not a member of the committee. I did not speak or participate. I sat on the sidelines as a silent observer with Gibbs because we would be called upon to publicly discuss the president's decision on that critical matter and the process by which he arrived at it.

We knew our presence chagrined some of the principals but, acting on the president's instructions, we were there to gain a thorough understanding of what would be one of the most important judgments he would make as commander-in-chief.

Our access also came with limits. We were barred from some of the most sensitive meetings on the Afghanistan-Pakistan policy review so as not to inhibit discussions.
Beyond that, Gibbs and I did not attend regular meetings of the NSC Principals committee or their deputies nor were we invited to weekly meetings on terrorist threats.

We did not attend the president's regular meetings with the Secretary of Defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff nor with the Secretary of State.
We did not sit in on the president's daily intelligence briefing.

Our expertise was in politics and communications, not national security and foreign policy and our attendance, much less participation, in these meetings would have been inappropriate.
Where aides were needed, the National Security Adviser and Chief of Staff filled the role.

In elevating Bannon to sit with the Secretaries of Defense and State and other key national security figures on the NSC principals committee, President Trump has blazed new ground. Bannon will exercise authority no political adviser has had before. He will be a full participant, not an observer, in national security deliberations.

Under the president's announced structure, Bannon has eclipsed the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Director of National Intelligence on the National Security Council.
Indeed, Bannon already has emerged as the president's most trusted adviser on global affairs, an area in which Trump has little expertise.

It was Bannon who guided the drafting of Trump's controversial immigration order. According to reports, the Secretary of Defense and director of Homeland Security were not consulted; the State Department was caught unawares.

The order, which has roiled the world, reflected not only Trump's campaign pledge for "extreme vetting" but the white nationalist, anti-immigrant bent of Breitbart News, the organization Bannon led before joining Trump's campaign team.

Trump's warmth to right-wing populist movements in Europe and hostility to trade and global institutions are wholly consistent with the worldview of Bannon's Breitbart, which recently opened bureaus in France and Germany in advance of elections there.

Ten days in, this much is clear: Steve Bannon is playing a role in national security and foreign policy for which there is no precedent.

And for better or worse, he already is making an impact.

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spennos seemingly overnight turn to an apologist for a fascist racist horror is far more alarming to me than anything lately.
Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

Wow!
While I may not totally agree with him 100% - a lot of what he's written has made sense and hasn't been made with emotive language - he's actually coming across as one of the most sane people with regard to this. Him and McParadigm.....and of course Burt

So rationalising and supporting such a warped view just cos he dresses it up nice verbally makes it valid?


No. It doesn't. At all.

Perhaps this thread needs to just be renamed 'Fuck Trump and if you disagree - fuck you too!'

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

I find this thread interesting in the way it's gone from a hatred of Trump to hatred towards a fellow RMer who has different views from the masses

Spennos seemingly overnight turn to an apologist for a fascist racist horror is far more alarming to me than anything lately.
Rhymes with the fact that he's descendant of immigrants that illegally colonised a country and one that still actively demonises its native population.

Wow!
While I may not totally agree with him 100% - a lot of what he's written has made sense and hasn't been made with emotive language - he's actually coming across as one of the most sane people with regard to this. Him and McParadigm.....and of course Burt

So rationalising and supporting such a warped view just cos he dresses it up nice verbally makes it valid?


No. It doesn't. At all.

Perhaps this thread needs to just be renamed 'Fuck Trump and if you disagree - fuck you too!'

Not at all. But that's not the point. He and people like him have found a voice and feel legitimate now that they're able to voice hate. I have huge problems with Israel and everything it does to Palestine. Doesn't mean I hate Jews. I don't. It's a country that somehow gets a pass for commiting genocide while pretending their genocide is a valid response to what effectively is a group of lads smaller than a gang you'd find in any US suburb 'attacking' them. And using that as a reason for war.


Trump is almost a follow on. He hasn't a clue what he's doing. But people who do know better are supporting him. So yeah. They're cunts too. I don't support racism or ostracising all Muslims or gays or Mexicans is fucked and I believe that anyone that does support that is just a racist fascist cunt. Any argument they make in attempt to make legitimate those notions is a flawed and abhorrent one.

Sue me.

McParadigm wrote:Congrats to dime on distracting everyone from his own key post earlier. More about it:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

Fun fact - this video is from Springsteen's Adelaide show last night (ie. where I live), in the same venue where I saw Nick Cave the night before.

ABNorman wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

Fun fact - this video is from Springsteen's Adelaide show last night (ie. where I live), in the same venue where I saw Nick Cave the night before.

I've never dipped into Nick Cave - what album should I start with?

ABNorman wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Bruce Springsteen for president. Watch this space.

Suddenly, protests don't seem so bad.

Well he doesn't support lynching niggers and despite your glee, for who the fuck knows reason, at Trumps rise to power you too laughed at the idea of him running.

Tonight we want to add our voices to the thousands of Americans who are protesting at airports around the country the Muslim Ban and the detention of foreign nationals and refugees. America is a nation of immigrants and we find this anti-democratic and fundamentally un-American.
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringste ... 311180250/

Fun fact - this video is from Springsteen's Adelaide show last night (ie. where I live), in the same venue where I saw Nick Cave the night before.

I've never dipped into Nick Cave - what album should I start with?