This is the most important point. I don't think Butler is good enough to be the best player on a "great" team, but he doesn't have to be in this situation. Towns is already the better player and he doesn't even turn 22 until this fall. Just imagine how good he could be in a couple of years. If Butler is the second best player and maybe the third highest scorer (Wiggins averaged 24 last year) on his own team (which could very well be the case in MN), then you are looking a a great scenario.Monkey_Driven wrote:I wasn't talking about Butler's next deal.verb_to_trust wrote:The league and smart Bulls fans don't value Jimmy Butler as much as casual fans or outsiders do. He's a good player, but if he was a difference maker don't you think Boston would have put together a better deal. I thought the Bulls could have gotten a better deal but the important thing is deciding to tank. Dumb Bulls fans lost in their fee fees over Jimmy don't get how much being an 8 seed over the next 2 years would set the team back.
Don't get the Lavine Butler contract comparison at all. Lavine is coming off an ACL and will have limited production this season. If the Bulls want to match whatever offer he gets from another team I doubt it breaks the bank. Butler on the other hand is going to command a huge contract and be a 30 year old who still hasn't won anything as the best player on a team.
Also, Towns might be the best player on the team now. Will definitely be in the next year or two.
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Remember, KAT averaged 25 and 12 last season, his second year in the league. Those numbers are as good as KG in his prime, and Towns should still be several years away from his prime. His potential is scary high. I think he could well be a (multiple time) league MVP at some point.
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Danny Ainge says the Celtics took several shots to acquire Jimmy Butler over the years but that the team wasn't involved in negotiations this week before Minnesota swooped in for the three-time All-Star.verb_to_trust wrote:The league and smart Bulls fans don't value Jimmy Butler as much as casual fans or outsiders do. He's a good player, but if he was a difference maker don't you think Boston would have put together a better deal. I thought the Bulls could have gotten a better deal but the important thing is deciding to tank. Dumb Bulls fans lost in their fee fees over Jimmy don't get how much being an 8 seed over the next 2 years would set the team back.
Don't get the Lavine Butler contract comparison at all. Lavine is coming off an ACL and will have limited production this season. If the Bulls want to match whatever offer he gets from another team I doubt it breaks the bank. Butler on the other hand is going to command a huge contract and be a 30 year old who still hasn't won anything as the best player on a team.
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CP3 and Blake both have opted for free agency.
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Because Danny thinks fair value is Terry Rozier straight up. Fuck that guy and his 'assets'.PHATJ wrote:Danny Ainge says the Celtics took several shots to acquire Jimmy Butler over the years but that the team wasn't involved in negotiations this week before Minnesota swooped in for the three-time All-Star.verb_to_trust wrote:The league and smart Bulls fans don't value Jimmy Butler as much as casual fans or outsiders do. He's a good player, but if he was a difference maker don't you think Boston would have put together a better deal. I thought the Bulls could have gotten a better deal but the important thing is deciding to tank. Dumb Bulls fans lost in their fee fees over Jimmy don't get how much being an 8 seed over the next 2 years would set the team back.
Don't get the Lavine Butler contract comparison at all. Lavine is coming off an ACL and will have limited production this season. If the Bulls want to match whatever offer he gets from another team I doubt it breaks the bank. Butler on the other hand is going to command a huge contract and be a 30 year old who still hasn't won anything as the best player on a team.
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I heard they are joining the Warriors...for FREE.PHATJ wrote:CP3 and Blake both have opted for free agency.
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verb_to_trust wrote:I heard they are joining the Warriors...for FREE.PHATJ wrote:CP3 and Blake both have opted for free agency.
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This is a (surprisingly) good article from ESPN about the Butler trade from both teams perspectives.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba
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Zach Lowe is probably the best NBA writer out there. You should check out all his stuff.PHATJ wrote:This is a (surprisingly) good article from ESPN about the Butler trade from both teams perspectives.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba
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ALL of it.Monkey_Driven wrote:Zach Lowe is probably the best NBA writer out there. You should check out all his stuff.PHATJ wrote:This is a (surprisingly) good article from ESPN about the Butler trade from both teams perspectives.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba
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He had a great run in the spring of 2014.Bammer wrote:ALL of it.Monkey_Driven wrote:Zach Lowe is probably the best NBA writer out there. You should check out all his stuff.PHATJ wrote:This is a (surprisingly) good article from ESPN about the Butler trade from both teams perspectives.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba
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Bets on who fetches the dumbest contract next week?
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Danny Ainge is basically Kevin McCallister and his draft picks are roller blades.
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I would imagine Paul gets a crazy contract. The respect he gets in the league will outweigh the fairly sharp drop in numbers he'll likely see in the next couple of years.
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Lol yep@SkitchP wrote:Danny Ainge is basically Kevin McCallister and his draft picks are roller blades.
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Wherever he goes he'll be headed for DWade territory by the end of the deal.run2death wrote:I would imagine Paul gets a crazy contract. The respect he gets in the league will outweigh the fairly sharp drop in numbers he'll likely see in the next couple of years.
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He will never even sniff a conference finals if he signs that big of a contract.verb_to_trust wrote:Wherever he goes he'll be headed for DWade territory by the end of the deal.run2death wrote:I would imagine Paul gets a crazy contract. The respect he gets in the league will outweigh the fairly sharp drop in numbers he'll likely see in the next couple of years.
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Am I missing something here?
Paul George alone isn't going to help the Cavs get over the Warriors. They need depth. Also, lol at any of the following veterans thinking they can go somewhere other than Golden State and have a chance at winning a title
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Paul George alone isn't going to help the Cavs get over the Warriors. They need depth. Also, lol at any of the following veterans thinking they can go somewhere other than Golden State and have a chance at winning a title
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
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