Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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Your point does nothing to devalue mine.Ensign9 wrote:Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
Of course they knew that. They totally dropped the ball. Obviously Kathleen Kennedy is no Kevin Feige when it comes to making multiple movies fit together.
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Lucas has claimed that there was.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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Lucas has been trying to revise history for the past 25 years. It's easy enough to figure out. Everything is out there. He most certainly did not have a trilogy planned from the start.B wrote:Lucas has claimed that there was.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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Yes and no. But even the yes part isn't really relevant to B's idiotic point.Ensign9 wrote:Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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Lucas has said a lot of shit.B wrote:Lucas has claimed that there was.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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What's the no part?durdencommatyler wrote:Yes and no. But even the yes part isn't really relevant to B's idiotic point.Ensign9 wrote:Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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That they knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker Saga.theplatypus wrote:What's the no part?durdencommatyler wrote:Yes and no. But even the yes part isn't really relevant to B's idiotic point.Ensign9 wrote:Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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That's not what I said. I said JJ didn't know HOW it would end.
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Try and keep up, B!
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I can't. When you guys get worked up your fire off Wookiepedia facts faster than I care.
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There's a Kessel Run joke here somewhere...B wrote:I can't. When you guys get worked up your fire off Wookiepedia facts faster than I care.
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Knock on the Door today
My pal dropped off the art of the rise of Skywalker book he bought me
Oh boy
The art of books from the previous two films have hundreds
Of Concepts you wish made it in a Star Wars
I’m almost afraid to open this
My pal dropped off the art of the rise of Skywalker book he bought me
Oh boy
The art of books from the previous two films have hundreds
Of Concepts you wish made it in a Star Wars
I’m almost afraid to open this
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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Plus, your pal probably coughed on it.dimejinky99 wrote:Knock on the Door today
My pal dropped off the art of the rise of Skywalker book he bought me
Oh boy
The art of books from the previous two films have hundreds
Of Concepts you wish made it in a Star Wars
I’m almost afraid to open this
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I agree with B's point -- JJ is great at beginnings and seems more interested in asking questions versus answering them. George Lucas not having a plan (although I think he had some stuff sketched out) is entirely understandable as it was brand new and there was no way to know he'd get the chance to make another one. This time around, any semblance of a coherent plan was derailed by focus on money and making their annual earnings projections. Potentially contrary to my first sentence, it may be that JJ had an overarching plan when he set out that was co-opted by aforementioned focus on cash money.durdencommatyler wrote:Yes and no. But even the yes part isn't really relevant to B's idiotic point.Ensign9 wrote:Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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Good post. I think JJ had a plan, but Rian threw most of it down the kitchen sink. JJ returned, and mostly continued with what he had thought out from the beginning. It does create a bit of a disconnect with TLJ, similar to TFA to TLJ, but TROS is still a fun ride.Ensign9 wrote:I agree with B's point -- JJ is great at beginnings and seems more interested in asking questions versus answering them. George Lucas not having a plan (although I think he had some stuff sketched out) is entirely understandable as it was brand new and there was no way to know he'd get the chance to make another one. This time around, any semblance of a coherent plan was derailed by focus on money and making their annual earnings projections. Potentially contrary to my first sentence, it may be that JJ had an overarching plan when he set out that was co-opted by aforementioned focus on cash money.durdencommatyler wrote:Yes and no. But even the yes part isn't really relevant to B's idiotic point.Ensign9 wrote:Much different circumstances. TFA was deliberately intended to kick off a new trilogy. They had the release calendar set ahead of time. They knew they wanted to wrap up the Skywalker saga.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly!wease wrote:There was no fucking trilogy when he was making Star Wars.durdencommatyler wrote:Of course he didn't know how it would end making The Force Awakens. BFD. George Lucas didn't know how the trilogy was going to end making Star Wars.B wrote:I promise you that JJ did not know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Force Awakens. He didn't know how the trilogy was going to end when he was making The Rise of Skywalker.
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This should have been done at the start of the trilogy IMO. Why they wasted two movies on Snoke is beyond me.E.H. Ruddock wrote:In fact, after watching this a couple more times, the way they reintroduced palpatine might be the worst thing in all of Star Wars
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Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:This should have been done at the start of the trilogy IMO. Why they wasted two movies on Snoke is beyond me.E.H. Ruddock wrote:In fact, after watching this a couple more times, the way they reintroduced palpatine might be the worst thing in all of Star Wars
It was done in episode 1
Hes also in episodes 2 3 4 5 6 7 aand 8
Maybe you missed em
Calibrate your enthusiasm
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Eh, I kind of agree with Ruddo. Honestly it feels like they scrapped all original plans for the new trilogy when Rian Johnson blew all their minds. JJ maybe had no idea what to do next so he reverted back to a comfort zone and just awkwardly made it all about palpatine again.dimejinky99 wrote:Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:This should have been done at the start of the trilogy IMO. Why they wasted two movies on Snoke is beyond me.E.H. Ruddock wrote:In fact, after watching this a couple more times, the way they reintroduced palpatine might be the worst thing in all of Star Wars
It was done in episode 1
Hes also in episodes 2 3 4 5 6 7 aand 8
Maybe you missed em
I know thats not true, but it feels that way watching this movie. Im more disappointed by the story than I am of the entertainment value of the film.
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It's comical to think that Abrams had a plan for this all along, considering the development of Force Awakens and the director change for Rise.