Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:Why is he doing that, you think?

Peeps wrote:

he is still using public data and guessing which plane is his. its not like elon has a cloaking device and his plane is invisible.

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

he is still using public data and guessing which plane is his. its not like elon has a cloaking device and his plane is invisible.

That’s what doxxing is.

BurtReynolds wrote:I think doxxing is protected under free speech, though of course, it still makes you an asshole.

As far as the motives of this elonjet person goes, that only pertains to whether he's an asshole or just some autist that likes tracking planes, not whether they should be allowed to do it.

Transparency is another big issue. Elon promises clear cut rules on Twitter, but we haven't seen them yet, or whether he will stick to them. The old Twitter regime thrived on the ambiguity so they could ban according to whim (and political bent).

Peeps wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I think doxxing is protected under free speech, though of course, it still makes you an asshole.

As far as the motives of this elonjet person goes, that only pertains to whether he's an asshole or just some autist that likes tracking planes, not whether they should be allowed to do it.

Transparency is another big issue. Elon promises clear cut rules on Twitter, but we haven't seen them yet, or whether he will stick to them. The old Twitter regime thrived on the ambiguity so they could ban according to whim (and political bent).

is it really banning on the political bent or just that one side kept promoting thoroughly despicable ideas?

B wrote:Who the fuck cares where Elon's plane is?

Anyone that can do something dangerous with that information can find that information by themselves?

Are the Saudis waiting with US-based anti-aircraft guns, but they can't act b/c no one has tweeted Elon's flight path yet?

BurtReynolds wrote:He jumped on a space with some journos last night and said journalists had no special distinction and wouldn't be treated any differently than anyone else. They couldn't process that at all lol.

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Bi_3 wrote:Twitter is like a massive group text. 99% noise, 1% signal. The difference is that signal is real time thoughts from some of the most prominent politicians, journalists, academics, and activists in the world, which means it has importance. How it's users interpret that signal is how to determine if it has value and if nothing else the last few weeks illustrate how many people with substantial wealth and power believed it to have real value in shaping the world. If they believed it, we probably should too.

This feels like a gross oversimplification. Not that this is any less anecdotal, but I think use cases fall under three general categories:

A) Provide an amplified platform for established leaders / global elite
B) Provide a far-reaching platform for disenfranchised / formally voiceless citizens with good ideas
C) Provide a far-reaching platform for disenfranchised / formally voiceless citizens with really dumb ideas

For each group, the outcomes are generally:

A) Broadens and consolidates their established power
B) Tends to preach to the choir
C) Anything from popularizes boneheaded pop-psycho babble to incites anger and violence

I just don't think this platform offers anything great to the world that wasn't already there, and on the whole, it undermines things like newsroom journalism, peer-reviewed research, and rigorous fact-checking. I hope it fails today.

Peeps wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:He jumped on a space with some journos last night and said journalists had no special distinction and wouldn't be treated any differently than anyone else. They couldn't process that at all lol.

i listened to that convo and i think youre making up some stuff. while he did say that it was in regards to breaking his twitter rules and not one person said a word about that

also when asked a series of questions he rage quit the chat and then suddenly the chat feature was disabled

BurtReynolds wrote:

Peeps wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:He jumped on a space with some journos last night and said journalists had no special distinction and wouldn't be treated any differently than anyone else. They couldn't process that at all lol.

i listened to that convo and i think youre making up some stuff. while he did say that it was in regards to breaking his twitter rules and not one person said a word about that

also when asked a series of questions he rage quit the chat and then suddenly the chat feature was disabled

lol "rage quit"

BurtReynolds wrote:Weird that the FBI is monitoring and reporting jokes about elections. Do you guys think they should be doing that?