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Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I guess bammer’s Creed prank didn’t work. That was a wasted slot on my list. Thanks a lot bammer

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:18 pm
by Anders
Mickey wrote:The obvious solution is to have a complex weighting system which awards additional points for multiple appearances but doesn't exclude any entries
10 points extra, for every third mention.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:20 pm
by Simple Torture
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I guess bammer’s Creed prank didn’t work. That was a wasted slot on my list. Thanks a lot bammer
I was going to bring this up. WTF, bammer

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:41 pm
by BurtReynolds
Anders wrote:
Mickey wrote:The obvious solution is to have a complex weighting system which awards additional points for multiple appearances but doesn't exclude any entries
10 points extra, for every third mention.
Mickey is correct I'm afraid. Redo the list.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:53 pm
by liebzz
I think I got 13 from my list. Pretty pretty good.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:54 pm
by Mickey
BurtReynolds wrote:
Anders wrote:
Mickey wrote:The obvious solution is to have a complex weighting system which awards additional points for multiple appearances but doesn't exclude any entries
10 points extra, for every third mention.
Mickey is correct I'm afraid. Redo the list.
One of these days, Burt

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-11 through 87 ANNOUNCED!!

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 8:59 pm
by PHATJ
spike wrote:
PHATJ wrote:The “I wish I was paying attention to RM over the last few months just so I could’ve participated in this thread” post.

I noticed this thread tonight. Wish I would’ve played along. I came up with a quick top 30 tonight. I’m sure I’m missing something that I’ll want to add or change later, but this is a good estimate. Cool thread. I demand a recount! Lolz

1. Pearl Jam
2. Stone Temple Pilots
3. Pink Floyd
4. Ween
5. The National
6. Beck
7. U2
8. Dave Matthews Band
9. Led Zeppelin
10. Smashing Pumpkins
11. Soundgarden
12. R.E.M.
13. Prince
14. Nirvana
15. Angels & Airwaves
16. +Live+
17. The Flaming Lips
18. MuteMath
19. Mike Doughty/Soul Coughing
20. Tori Amos
21. Tom Petty
22. Roger Waters
23. Radiohead
24. Ok Go
25. Queen
26. Flickerstick
27. El Vy
28. Thrice
29. Crash Test Dummies
30. Eels
where'd you go, after the election?
I stopped checking RM on a daily basis well before the election.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 9:07 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-11 through 87 ANNOUNCED!!

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 9:21 pm
by Mickey
PHATJ wrote:
spike wrote:
PHATJ wrote:The “I wish I was paying attention to RM over the last few months just so I could’ve participated in this thread” post.

I noticed this thread tonight. Wish I would’ve played along. I came up with a quick top 30 tonight. I’m sure I’m missing something that I’ll want to add or change later, but this is a good estimate. Cool thread. I demand a recount! Lolz

1. Pearl Jam
2. Stone Temple Pilots
3. Pink Floyd
4. Ween
5. The National
6. Beck
7. U2
8. Dave Matthews Band
9. Led Zeppelin
10. Smashing Pumpkins
11. Soundgarden
12. R.E.M.
13. Prince
14. Nirvana
15. Angels & Airwaves
16. +Live+
17. The Flaming Lips
18. MuteMath
19. Mike Doughty/Soul Coughing
20. Tori Amos
21. Tom Petty
22. Roger Waters
23. Radiohead
24. Ok Go
25. Queen
26. Flickerstick
27. El Vy
28. Thrice
29. Crash Test Dummies
30. Eels
where'd you go, after the election?
I stopped checking RM on a daily basis well before the election.
PHATJ, on November 3rd wrote:
Anders wrote:Anyone still think Trump will win?
You’d think after 2016 people would learn.
But you still stopped by to say hi before results were announced :)

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 9:25 pm
by Jammer XCI
Mine

1. Wu-Tang Clan
2. Slayer
3. Nine Inch Nails
4. Gang Starr
5. Deftones
6. Soundgarden
7. Primus
8. Deltron 3030
9. Porcupine Tree
10. Gojira
11. Tool
12. Kyuss
13. Alice in Chains
14. Queens of the Stone Age
15. Radiohead
16. Bone Thugs n' Harmony
17. Failure
18. Acid Bath
19. Type O Negative
20. Iron Maiden

Re: RM Top 100 Artists

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 9:42 pm
by knee tunes
knee tunes wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
Jorge wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Jorge wrote:Boy that original list is BORING
Is the new list more or less boring?
A little less boring. But that's to be expected especially with the dumb three-mentions rule
Genuine question: What would be the best way to weigh something like this? I totally agree with Argo that assigning 20 points to someone's top choice and 1 point to their bottom choice could, especially with only 43 respondents, create weird outliers that wouldn't really be representative of the information the list is trying to measure. Yeah, you can make the argument that maybe Pete loves The Mynabirds so much that there is more total "love" for the Mynabirds on RM coming from that one person than there is collective love for Thelonious Monk coming from 20 people, and maybe that's true, but that still feels like a level of unquantifiability that's too farfetched even for an exercise based on largely unquantifiable criteria. I feel like a statistics exercise ought to try to control for unrepresentative outliers, not find ways to include them just so the data can be less boring. Not to say there isn't a way to reflect differing levels of preference in people's voting, but I think Argo's reasoning in not using a 1 to 20 range is sound.
I think because the number of responses ended up being less than anticipated, the 3-person criteria could have been reduced to 2.
I think I misread how this works. I thought it was going on number of votes received, and then within the number of votes received, they were ranked based on points. So, all artists who received four votes would appear higher than those who received three votes, but in order to sort within the vote counts, weights were applied.

Disregard my post, I don't know where I got that idea.
The way you just described would have worked better.
Actually, I just reread argo's first post and the way you described IS how it was tallied. :D

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:04 pm
by Jorge
That's the point of the points. To quantify!

Just would've been a weirder and more interesting list is all. It's actually not a big deal

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:14 pm
by Norah
Maybe the weighting could have been different, instead of starting with 1 point for the 20th ranked band and adding a point each, stick with 1 point per band for 20-11 and then start increasing by a point each for the top ten.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:19 pm
by liebzz
I say trust in the results and thank Argo for the efforts! Fun times. Next time albums?

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:23 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:40 pm
by Mickey
Don't let Argo run it though.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:41 pm
by Anders
No Code would win.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:46 pm
by Mickey
Lol fuck no.

Re: RM Top 87 Artists-COMPLETE OFFICIAL LIST ANNOUNCED

Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 10:46 pm
by Norah
Let's put the no Pearl Jam rule back for that one.