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Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Tue October 31, 2023 8:05 pm
by epilogue
Browns trading DPJ to the Lions... fascinating

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Tue October 31, 2023 8:05 pm
by epilogue
Vikings get a new QB!

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Tue October 31, 2023 8:39 pm
by dad
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Chase Young to the 49ers.
damn.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Tue October 31, 2023 8:55 pm
by dad
9ers should've traded for a QB.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 4:14 pm
by tree_
According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 5:38 pm
by 96583UP
what a turn of events for him

not long ago he was getting mercilessly crushed in the pocket on every drop back

did he actually improve, the line improve, or the addition of Hill changed the way defenses had to play him?

he looked toast a year or two ago

hard to believe MVP could be appropriate all the sudden

but i dont follow them closely

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 5:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson

Those are my top 4 current. I would say number 5 could be Tua, Trevor Lawrence, or Josh Allen on any given Sunday.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 5:53 pm
by Strat
Go Vikings

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 5:55 pm
by tree_
96583UP wrote:what a turn of events for him

not long ago he was getting mercilessly crushed in the pocket on every drop back

did he actually improve, the line improve, or the addition of Hill changed the way defenses had to play him?

he looked toast a year or two ago

hard to believe MVP could be appropriate all the sudden

but i dont follow them closely
It's not the line. Last Sunday we had backups playing on 4/5 of the o-line and Tua still managed to stay (mostly) clean and productive due to his quick release, awareness and decisiveness.

But when the line is healthy the run game excels and the offense reaches another level.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 7:46 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?
I do not, no.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 7:51 pm
by tree_
epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?
I do not, no.
Good luck on Sunday!

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:03 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?
I do not, no.
Good luck on Sunday!
And to you as well!

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:07 pm
by doug rr
broncos about to go on a roll....

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:09 pm
by epilogue
doug rr wrote:broncos about to go on a roll....
You see the Raiders cleaned house? Feels good to watch them crumble...

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:10 pm
by doug rr
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:broncos about to go on a roll....
You see the Raiders cleaned house? Feels good to watch them crumble...
pure joy, Joe..

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:36 pm
by epilogue
doug rr wrote:
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:broncos about to go on a roll....
You see the Raiders cleaned house? Feels good to watch them crumble...
pure joy, Joe..
Fucking Josh McDaniels. I'm not sure how Denver fans survived him as their head coach. I mean I guess it was only for a few weeks. :lol:

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:42 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:broncos about to go on a roll....
You see the Raiders cleaned house? Feels good to watch them crumble...
pure joy, Joe..
Fucking Josh McDaniels. I'm not sure how Denver fans survived him as their head coach. I mean I guess it was only for a few weeks. :lol:
Most if not all of the Belichick tree have failed as head coaches. They thrived possible in part due to him but it is looking more and more like Tom Brady covered up a lot of shit, even for ol' Billy B. Brady goes on to win a Super Bowl and one shitty defensive play from being in a second one with another team, meanwhile the Pats are flailing. Not saying Belichick isn't a good coach, but I think that Brady's legacy is improving even after retirement with all of the failure that followed it.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Wed November 01, 2023 8:55 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:
epilogue wrote:
doug rr wrote:broncos about to go on a roll....
You see the Raiders cleaned house? Feels good to watch them crumble...
pure joy, Joe..
Fucking Josh McDaniels. I'm not sure how Denver fans survived him as their head coach. I mean I guess it was only for a few weeks. :lol:
Most if not all of the Belichick tree have failed as head coaches. They thrived possible in part due to him but it is looking more and more like Tom Brady covered up a lot of shit, even for ol' Billy B. Brady goes on to win a Super Bowl and one shitty defensive play from being in a second one with another team, meanwhile the Pats are flailing. Not saying Belichick isn't a good coach, but I think that Brady's legacy is improving even after retirement with all of the failure that followed it.
100%

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Thu November 02, 2023 1:08 pm
by 4/5
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tree_ wrote:According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson

Those are my top 4 current. I would say number 5 could be Tua, Trevor Lawrence, or Josh Allen on any given Sunday.
Jalen Hurts? Yeesh.

Re: 2023 NFL Season

Posted: Thu November 02, 2023 1:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
4/5 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tree_ wrote:According to stats and my eyes, though they may be biased (I was an avid Tannehill supporter when he was Dolphins' QB), Tua is a top 5 QB in the league because of his elite pocket presence, anticipation, processing speed, release time, and accuracy. What do you all think of him, as non-Dolphins fans? Do you think he's a legit league MVP candidate?
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson

Those are my top 4 current. I would say number 5 could be Tua, Trevor Lawrence, or Josh Allen on any given Sunday.
Jalen Hurts? Yeesh.
Sorry, should have said Jared Goff