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Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:23 pm
by McParadigm
kind of my thought as well

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:27 pm
by southp
McParadigm wrote:kind of my thought as well
My point goes back to what hlniv said about the songs not being challenging enough. LB ain't exactly a Coldplay album.
So other than the removal of a big fat radio hit, what more could a Binaural/RA lover hope for?

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:29 pm
by stupidmop
southp wrote:
McParadigm wrote:kind of my thought as well
My point goes back to what hlniv said about the songs not being challenging enough. LB ain't exactly a Coldplay album.
So other than the removal of a big fat radio hit, what more could a Binaural/RA lover hope for?
Better songs
Spoiler: show
:P

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:30 pm
by LetMeSleep
Depth, quality and less intrusive production.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:32 pm
by warehouse
Birds in Hell wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
southp wrote:If you were looking for more NAIS, you got it in YM. If you were looking for more SOH, you got it with Pendulum
If you were looking for a juicy 16oz ribeye, here's a Big Mac.
Seriously!
i think thats kinda being overly critical of the LB songs. its more like you ordered 16 oz ribeye, and they came back w/ 30 huge chicken wings covered in hot sauce.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:32 pm
by McParadigm
Less safety

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:33 pm
by EJ
Image


more vuvuzelas, please

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:35 pm
by southp
LetMeSleep wrote:Depth, quality and less intrusive production.
If that's rooted in Binaural or Riot Act being the benchmark then you might as well be in that googled space image on the album cover.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:36 pm
by stip
LetMeSleep wrote:Depth, quality and less intrusive production.
songs that don't enjoy being songs.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:36 pm
by southp
McParadigm wrote:Less safety
I like that.
But wouldn't you say LB was less safe than the previous two? And maybe less safe than Yield?

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:37 pm
by stip
It's a safe record. that's certainly fair.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:37 pm
by southp
EJ wrote:Image


more vuvuzelas, please

Booooooooooom!!

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:39 pm
by warehouse
McParadigm wrote:Less safety
more gangster rap

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:41 pm
by LetMeSleep
I want PJ to trust themselves and create an album without any sense of self awareness or public perception. They cannot do this with Bo'B.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:42 pm
by hlniv
Again to clarify:
On the whole, I quite like LB. But i have my critiques
I do not like Backspacer. The songs are not enjoyable at all, most are utter turds. And the general direction is not my taste
I do not hate S/T. I think most of the songs are pretty strong (7 or 8), but close listens yield disappointment. They just aren't well done. And there are a couple total shit songs

As far as LB critique, what I would have wanted is:

More risks
More distinguishable guitars
More distinguishable anything
Less flash
Less flair
More full band jams
A complete re-recording of Future Days

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:43 pm
by hlniv
LetMeSleep wrote:I want PJ to trust themselves and create an album without any sense of self awareness or public perception. They cannot do this with Bo'B.
And this :thumbsup:

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:45 pm
by stip
LetMeSleep wrote:I want PJ to trust themselves and create an album without any sense of self awareness or public perception. They cannot do this with Bo'B.

that's probably true.


Really I just want them to record things more quickly, more than anything else.

The rest of this (hlniv's list) is all potentially fine, but they aren't really a wishlist for me because pearl jam has great and weak songs that take risks and don't take risks, have more or less flash, more or less flair, etc. It's all execution. And I think they executed very well and, most importantly, consistently well. This is literally the first record since Vitalogy (not counting the weird stuff) where i quite enjoy every single song.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:47 pm
by Heathen
southp wrote:If you were looking for more NAIS, you got it in YM. If you were looking for more SOH, you got it with Pendulum
Ha. No fucking way.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:48 pm
by Mine
McParadigm wrote:Less safety
This! This is my main negative complain about their recent output. Everything about it is so on the safe side of things it's bland compared to rest of their discography.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Wed December 18, 2013 10:48 pm
by stip
true story. I think YM is better than NAIS and I think Pendulum is a LOT better than SoH