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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:05 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:It's got minor chords, and minor chords are cool. That helps it.
I don't think it has a single minor chord
Isn't the chord on 'baby' a minor, rather than the predictable happy chord it could've been. And isn't that same chord repeated on 'And I
know...'? I'm just using the ear, it might be major despite the fact it doesn't sound happy. But that chord could've easily been replaced with a happy chord and they chose not to.
I think the entire verse is just E and C. Maybe it sounds like a minor with Mike's slide accents, but I'd have to listen again to check.
Na, there's definitely a third chord in there.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:05 pm
by Jorge
To be fair, "decanter" is a good word.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:05 pm
by McParadigm
It's not unreasonable to hope that nuance will deepen the album cut. It isn't likely to, but it could be done.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:06 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:It's got minor chords, and minor chords are cool. That helps it.
I don't think it has a single minor chord
Isn't the chord on 'baby' a minor, rather than the predictable happy chord it could've been. And isn't that same chord repeated on 'And I
know...'? I'm just using the ear, it might be major despite the fact it doesn't sound happy. But that chord could've easily been replaced with a happy chord and they chose not to.
I think the entire verse is just E and C. Maybe it sounds like a minor with Mike's slide accents, but I'd have to listen again to check.
Na, there's definitely a third chord in there.
No
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:08 pm
by stip
EJ wrote:stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:EJ wrote:stip wrote:theplatypus wrote:EJ wrote:harmless wrote:So who actually thinks Thin Air is a go-to song, even when they're not listening to Binaural? I certainly don't. It's nice, but it's definitely a part of a whole and no more.
I do. Love it. Loved since they debuted it at Bridge School before Binaural was released. My opinion has not changed since.
Me too. I think it's great. Better than "Future Days" on just about every level.
the music on thin air is nice. Not crazy about the performance and don't like the lyrics.
Byzantine would have been a good word for you to use in the words tourney. You really overlooked some gems.
*rhinestones
i thought about limiting myself to words in pearl jam songs, but if someone took waves early on I'd be fucked.
If you'd only used words from bushleaguer you would have at least gotten out of the first round.
I shouldn't have to dumb myself down for RM!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:09 pm
by McParadigm
I don't even know what you guys are talking about
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:11 pm
by Jorge
McParadigm wrote:I don't even know what you guys are talking about
Chords and words
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:12 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:It's got minor chords, and minor chords are cool. That helps it.
I don't think it has a single minor chord
Isn't the chord on 'baby' a minor, rather than the predictable happy chord it could've been. And isn't that same chord repeated on 'And I
know...'? I'm just using the ear, it might be major despite the fact it doesn't sound happy. But that chord could've easily been replaced with a happy chord and they chose not to.
I think the entire verse is just E and C. Maybe it sounds like a minor with Mike's slide accents, but I'd have to listen again to check.
Na, there's definitely a third chord in there.
No
You're right, the bass plays three notes over the two chords. But isn't the second chord a minor? If it isn't, it doesn't really matter; I still think it lends a dour feeling to the song to reduce its happy cheesiness. The chord sounds a little depressed.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:12 pm
by McParadigm
Is that an explanation, or a summary of Future Days?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:12 pm
by Jorge
harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:theplatypus wrote:harmless wrote:It's got minor chords, and minor chords are cool. That helps it.
I don't think it has a single minor chord
Isn't the chord on 'baby' a minor, rather than the predictable happy chord it could've been. And isn't that same chord repeated on 'And I
know...'? I'm just using the ear, it might be major despite the fact it doesn't sound happy. But that chord could've easily been replaced with a happy chord and they chose not to.
I think the entire verse is just E and C. Maybe it sounds like a minor with Mike's slide accents, but I'd have to listen again to check.
Na, there's definitely a third chord in there.
No
You're right, the bass plays three notes over the two chords. But isn't the second chord a minor? If it isn't, it doesn't really matter; I still think it lends a dour feeling to the song to reduce its happy cheesiness. The chord sounds a little depressed.
The whole song has this weird ominous feeling to it. The arrangement is really good.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:13 pm
by harmless
Also the vocal melody isn't exactly chipper.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:13 pm
by EJ
McParadigm wrote:Is that an explanation, or a summary of Future Days?
I think that would just be: chord and two words.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:15 pm
by harmless
Gah, I don't mind Future Days but it would've been really helped by something depressing being thrown in there. A vocal note, a chord, whatever. Even 'Skipping' has more tempered feeling than this. I would even like that song to replace it. There's the laughter at the beginning, it's a good song about parenthood, and it would chime well with the 'young innocents' line in MYM.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:17 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:Gah, I don't mind Future Days but it would've been really helped by something depressing being thrown in there. A vocal note, a chord, whatever. Even 'Skipping' has more tempered feeling than this. I would even like that song to replace it. There's the laughter at the beginning, it's a good song about parenthood, and it would chime well with the 'young innocents' line in MYM.
Based on two and a half listens, I would say it reaches for serene and achieves fluffy.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:19 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:Gah, I don't mind Future Days but it would've been really helped by something depressing being thrown in there. A vocal note, a chord, whatever. Even 'Skipping' has more tempered feeling than this. I would even like that song to replace it. There's the laughter at the beginning, it's a good song about parenthood, and it would chime well with the 'young innocents' line in MYM.
Based on two and a half listens, I would say it reaches for serene and achieves fluffy.
Let's see if the studio version can do anything for that, but I doubt it.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:22 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Gah, I don't mind Future Days but it would've been really helped by something depressing being thrown in there. A vocal note, a chord, whatever. Even 'Skipping' has more tempered feeling than this. I would even like that song to replace it. There's the laughter at the beginning, it's a good song about parenthood, and it would chime well with the 'young innocents' line in MYM.
Skipping is a good song
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:24 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:Gah, I don't mind Future Days but it would've been really helped by something depressing being thrown in there. A vocal note, a chord, whatever. Even 'Skipping' has more tempered feeling than this. I would even like that song to replace it. There's the laughter at the beginning, it's a good song about parenthood, and it would chime well with the 'young innocents' line in MYM.
Skipping is a good song
Yes it is. But I'm using it as an example of a song which has cheesy sentimental subject matter but still manages to be interesting and not entirely happy.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:30 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:Gah, I don't mind Future Days but it would've been really helped by something depressing being thrown in there. A vocal note, a chord, whatever. Even 'Skipping' has more tempered feeling than this. I would even like that song to replace it. There's the laughter at the beginning, it's a good song about parenthood, and it would chime well with the 'young innocents' line in MYM.
Skipping is a good song
Yes it is. But I'm using it as an example of a song which has cheesy sentimental subject matter but still manages to be interesting and not entirely happy.
I was gonna add: but keep it off a PJ record.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:31 pm
by harmless
I just think PJ is whatever they decide to put on their albums. I might like it, might not, but it's no less PJ for all that.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Sun September 08, 2013 6:34 pm
by stip
i like skipping a LOT more than future days. It's a really nice song and Eddie sounds great on it--especially that bittersweet vocalizations at the end when he realizes that this isn't going to last forever and his little girl is going to grow up.
that song caught some shit when it was released but it's really quite good.