Red Mosquito

This is an excellent example of the difference between what happened and what people selectively remember.

Not really. I just refreshed myself on the case. He was 12, he had an airsoft gun and he was killed in a matter of seconds. He wasn't given first aid for over four minutes, which even if you believe he deserved to be shot is ridiculous. The result of whatever you believe happened was a dead 12-year old child. That's a fact.

No. This thread is full of people who think that lumping all cops in with the minuscule minority of awful ones is somehow a sign of enlightenment. That facts and statistics (reality) does not matter because they just know that all cops are trigger happy racists and anyone who questions that is stupid, full of crap, or an apologist for the killing machines in blue.

I really don't give a shit about the original thread title, any of that. I'm arguing the cases that compelled someone to climb on top of a building and murder cops. This is not my delicate liberal sensibilities at stake, I don't give a shit about that. We are at 10 minutes to midnight on a race war right now. This shit is serious and has to be addressed.

Orpheus wrote: We are at 10 minutes to midnight on a race war right now. This shit is serious and has to be addressed.

Good news is we have more time than we think because one side probably wont be there until around 12:20

skitch

Orpheus wrote: skitch

This has been quite the thread today. Good work guys. I'm proud of you all.

cutuphalfdead wrote:I mean, just look at his avatar. Do you think he's capable of nuanced thought?

Judging me based on my av, well that just pretty much sums it up

Well...there's also your spelling and grammar.

pepperwhiteMFC wrote:

i got bugs wrote:I get that but this thread is absolutely anti cop

Not giving them any credit whatsoever

The thread is titled "cops are the worst" yet the second any of these assholes need em they will cry like a bitch

Your arguments hinge on notions of 'we can never know all the facts of a tail light infraction.' And now you're suggesting that us assholes - that are merely participating in a thread that one person gave title to - will need the cops and then cry like a little bitch.

Hopefully you won't

And yes, you weren't there.. you don't completely know exactly what happened.. but yea I have the super macho man flexing as my avatar, so what can I possibly know about anything

Figuring that's still my avatar being I can't see it on my mobile version and I haven't been on the regular version in years

Kaius wrote:Well...there's also your spelling and grammar.

And where have I fucked up spelling and grammar??

I mean sometimes the spell check works for and against you here n there but rm isn't a master's level thesis so who exactly fuckin cares

Orpheus wrote:
Not really. I just refreshed myself on the case. He was 12, he had an airsoft gun and he was killed in a matter of seconds. He wasn't given first aid for over four minutes, which even if you believe he deserved to be shot is ridiculous. The result of whatever you believe happened was a dead 12-year old child. That's a fact.

Those are all facts of the case, yes. But what you said is that he was "shot for having a toy gun", which is not accurate. He was shot for having a gun which was later determined to be a toy. There is a world of difference there.

Orpheus wrote: I really don't give a shit about the original thread title, any of that. I'm arguing the cases that compelled someone to climb on top of a building and murder cops. This is not my delicate liberal sensibilities at stake, I don't give a shit about that. We are at 10 minutes to midnight on a race war right now. This shit is serious and has to be addressed.

I too am a liberal. Pretty liberal in fact, but I demand evidence before forming an opinion and most of what is in this thread is far from that. It's the same tired bullshit about the police being out to kill black folk when the evidence does not bare this out. If you disagree, show me some evidence that backs the claim or stop making it because this race war ( which ain't happening, people are not as evil as you think) is predicated on people repeating the story until, much like shark attacks at beach, people think the tragedies are happening everyday. (And no, there is no acceptable number of people of any race that cops can maliciously kill.)

I don't even give a shit about your avatar or whatever. I'm just "judging you" on your logical fortitude.

Bi_3 wrote:He was shot for having a gun which was later determined to be a toy. There is a world of difference there.

Thank you

Some of these "experts" wouldn't last a night as a cop

pepperwhiteMFC wrote:I don't even give a shit about your avatar or whatever. I'm just "judging you" on your logical fortitude.

What about my intestinal fortitude

I've seen this kind of thing so many times it's sickening. I got bugs - you simply can't open your mind to try to understand the full sophistication of this entire era.

i got bugs wrote:

pepperwhiteMFC wrote:I don't even give a shit about your avatar or whatever. I'm just "judging you" on your logical fortitude.

What about my intestinal fortitude

Get a diaper, pal.

I opened my mind and understand both sides of thinking

Far as I'm concerned half of this thread is incapable of seeing things from the cops point of view

i got bugs wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:He was shot for having a gun which was later determined to be a toy. There is a world of difference there.

Thank you

Some of these "experts" wouldn't last a night as a cop

Cop are the best?

i got bugs wrote:I opened my mind and understand both sides of thinking

Far as I'm concerned half of this thread is incapable of seeing things from the cops point of view

The good cops are probably wishing for some solid leadership right now - because they still have to go to their day jobs.

i got bugs, it's awesome that you would never do the jobs that good cops do - because they don't get paid enough.


Congrats planet earth, we have this guy.

Bi_3 wrote:

Orpheus wrote: I really don't give a shit about the original thread title, any of that. I'm arguing the cases that compelled someone to climb on top of a building and murder cops. This is not my delicate liberal sensibilities at stake, I don't give a shit about that. We are at 10 minutes to midnight on a race war right now. This shit is serious and has to be addressed.

I too am a liberal. Pretty liberal in fact, but I demand evidence before forming an opinion and most of what is in this thread is far from that. It's the same tired bullshit about the police being out to kill black folk when the evidence does not bare this out. If you disagree, show me some evidence that backs the claim or stop making it because this race war ( which ain't happening, people are not as evil as you think) is predicated on people repeating the story until, much like shark attacks at beach, people think the tragedies are happening everyday. (And no, there is no acceptable number of people of any race that cops can maliciously kill.)

Martin, Garner, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, etc. over the last two years, plus horrible tragedies on consecutive days culminating in the worst loss of law enforcement lives since 9/11 isn't enough evidence for you that something is deeply wrong? The evidence is staring us all in the face, or apparently as of last night, shooting policeman execution style from the tops of buildings. What else has to happen for major changes in policing policies, as well as gun control? Didn't you just say there's reports that another Dallas might be in the works? And this is ok with you?