Red Mosquito

Satisfying win by the Cards. Toughness and resiliency is something this team has always lacked (even in the BA era), so it was nice to see them get punched in the gut with those two fumbles, then bounce back.

Still think BA is too enamored with the 5 and 4 receiver sets. It's a miracle Carson hasn't been injured yet.

MattA75 wrote:Someone has to have a gif of the shot of Carroll's reaction as that play unfolded/ended

It was like Manning face, but 20X better

I don't think this is the one you're looking for, but it's good:

Simple Torture wrote:

MattA75 wrote:Someone has to have a gif of the shot of Carroll's reaction as that play unfolded/ended

It was like Manning face, but 20X better

I don't think this is the one you're looking for, but it's good:

no not the one but damn satisfying nonetheless

I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Jets
Eagles
Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)
Cowboys (Romo in mid 30's injury prone)
Texans
Browns
Niners
Rams (?)
Broncos
Chiefs (Is Alex Smith considered the future there?)
Lions

That is a lot of team. I didn't include the Saints because they drafted a guy last year, right? And Maybe the Bills could be added to that list.

Discuss.

I imagine Kapernick will go to the Eagles or Texans, and Glennon will probably get traded. Other than that, what backups are there that could start elsewhere? RGIII?

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I imagine Kapernick will go to the Eagles or Texans, and Glennon will probably get traded. Other than that, what backups are there that could start elsewhere? RGIII?

Looks like we're going to find out about Osweiler soon enough...

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)

I think Cousins will get re-signed. He's a decent enough QB, and if Washington builds a better o-line and better D, the team can be ok. Basically, get the talent around him, and I think Cousins can be a solid NFL QB. Of 32 starting QBs, I think Cousins is good enough to be right in the middle, maybe slightly higher.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Jets
Eagles
Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)
Cowboys (Romo in mid 30's injury prone)
Texans
Browns
Niners
Rams (?)
Broncos
Chiefs (Is Alex Smith considered the future there?)
Lions

That is a lot of team. I didn't include the Saints because they drafted a guy last year, right? And Maybe the Bills could be added to that list.

Discuss.

I think your list is looking pretty good, except I think the Eagles, Washington, Cowboys, and Chiefs will definitely start with the same guy under center (although that doesn't mean they won't be looking for someone new). It's looking more and more like P. Manning is just breaking down and that he'll sadly retire this offseason, and if Osweiler performs well for the next few weeks, they may stick with him. With the other teams you mentioned, I think it's more likely that they'll be "swapping" QBs (not through trades, but through waivers and cuts) or trying out guys already on their roster rather than drafting.

I think among Stafford, Kapernick, RGIII, and maybe Foles, you'll see at least 2 of them be a starter next year for another team.

darth_vedder wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)

I think Cousins will get re-signed. He's a decent enough QB, and if Washington builds a better o-line and better D, the team can be ok. Basically, get the talent around him, and I think Cousins can be a solid NFL QB. Of 32 starting QBs, I think Cousins is good enough to be right in the middle, maybe slightly higher.

I can see that, but if they do it, they should also draft a QB in the middle rounds just in case he isn't the long term solution.

Fun fact from Bill Barnwell's column today: the last time P. Manning was benched was September 30, 2001...during Tom Brady's first career start, a 43-13 loss to the Patriots.

Green Habit wrote:

darth_vedder wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)

I think Cousins will get re-signed. He's a decent enough QB, and if Washington builds a better o-line and better D, the team can be ok. Basically, get the talent around him, and I think Cousins can be a solid NFL QB. Of 32 starting QBs, I think Cousins is good enough to be right in the middle, maybe slightly higher.

I can see that, but if they do it, they should also draft a QB in the middle rounds just in case he isn't the long term solution.

Yeah, definitely. They got Kirk in the 4th round (2012), and I'd expect a similar pick in the 2016 draft.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Jets
Eagles
Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)
Cowboys (Romo in mid 30's injury prone)
Texans
Browns
Niners
Rams (?)
Broncos
Chiefs (Is Alex Smith considered the future there?)
Lions

That is a lot of team. I didn't include the Saints because they drafted a guy last year, right? And Maybe the Bills could be added to that list.

Discuss.

You can most likely not include the Bills on that list. They'll be in line for a backup QB if anything

Mecca wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Jets
Eagles
Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)
Cowboys (Romo in mid 30's injury prone)
Texans
Browns
Niners
Rams (?)
Broncos
Chiefs (Is Alex Smith considered the future there?)
Lions

That is a lot of team. I didn't include the Saints because they drafted a guy last year, right? And Maybe the Bills could be added to that list.

Discuss.

You can most likely not include the Bills on that list. They'll be in line for a backup QB if anything

Because Tyrod Taylor or the other guy?

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Mecca wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I know we've had this discussion before, but with the poor season and crappy backup that Manning has, and the resurgence of Jay Cutler on the Bears, I've been thinking a lot about all of the teams that will legitimately need a QB next season, and the fact that there aren't many "franchise" qbs in college this year. The list I have is:

Jets
Eagles
Redskins (Cousins isn't long term, right?)
Cowboys (Romo in mid 30's injury prone)
Texans
Browns
Niners
Rams (?)
Broncos
Chiefs (Is Alex Smith considered the future there?)
Lions

That is a lot of team. I didn't include the Saints because they drafted a guy last year, right? And Maybe the Bills could be added to that list.

Discuss.

You can most likely not include the Bills on that list. They'll be in line for a backup QB if anything

Because Tyrod Taylor or the other guy?

:/

That was a serious question, btw.

I think ditching Matt Stafford would be colossally stupid.

@SkitchP wrote:I think ditching Matt Stafford would be colossally stupid.

Well the good thing is the Lions aren't known for making colossally stupid decisions.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:I think ditching Matt Stafford would be colossally stupid.

Well the good thing is the Lions aren't known for making colossally stupid decisions.

thats pretty hurtful ruddo. But i deserved it.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:That was a serious question, btw.

because all the bills do is go for backup quarterbacks

@SkitchP wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:I think ditching Matt Stafford would be colossally stupid.

Well the good thing is the Lions aren't known for making colossally stupid decisions.

thats pretty hurtful ruddo. But i deserved it.

Yeah you set me up for that one, skitch.