Red Mosquito

@SkitchP wrote:Ugh. This stupid dog is wearing me out so much I havent done my last 2 days of stats.

numbers wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:Ugh. This stupid dog is wearing me out so much I havent done my last 2 days of stats.

I've been doing my stats once a week, don't feel bad.

cutuphalfdead wrote:I made a terrible mistake and switched to 2000 Pedro for this year's tournament. Last time we went with 1999.

numbers wrote:I still feel like it will turn around.

@SkitchP wrote:Ive been so good until yesterday, but every moment ive been home im on dog or kid or both watch.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Lament wrote:Day twelve matchups...

Dodgers @ Giants
Sutton (R) vs. Mathewson (R), Valenzuela (L) vs. Hubbell (L)

Phillies @ Braves
McQuillan (R) vs. Niekro (R), Lee (L) vs. Glavine (L)

Cubs @ Cardinals
Maddux (R) vs. Gibson (R), Ellsworth (L) vs. Brecheen (L)

Diamondbacks @ Marlins
Webb (R) vs. Willis (L), Haren (R) vs. Fernandez (R)

Expos/Nationals @ Astros
Rogers (R) vs. Hampton (L), Scherzer (R) vs. Keuchel (L)

Orioles @ Tigers
McNally (L) vs. Mullin (R), Dobson (R) vs. Trout (R)

Athletics @ White Sox
Grove (L) vs. Lyons (R), Gray (R) vs. Walsh (R)

Blue Jays @ Red Sox
Key (L) vs. Lowe (R), Stieb (R) vs. Martinez (R)

Mariners @ Rays
Hanson (R) vs. Archer (R), Garcia (R) vs. Kazmir (L)

Twins @ Brewers
Blyleven (R) vs. Higuera (L), vs. Liriano (L) vs. Vuckovich (R)

Liriano is not an eligible starter for the Twins.

PHATJ wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Lament wrote:Day twelve matchups...

Dodgers @ Giants
Sutton (R) vs. Mathewson (R), Valenzuela (L) vs. Hubbell (L)

Phillies @ Braves
McQuillan (R) vs. Niekro (R), Lee (L) vs. Glavine (L)

Cubs @ Cardinals
Maddux (R) vs. Gibson (R), Ellsworth (L) vs. Brecheen (L)

Diamondbacks @ Marlins
Webb (R) vs. Willis (L), Haren (R) vs. Fernandez (R)

Expos/Nationals @ Astros
Rogers (R) vs. Hampton (L), Scherzer (R) vs. Keuchel (L)

Orioles @ Tigers
McNally (L) vs. Mullin (R), Dobson (R) vs. Trout (R)

Athletics @ White Sox
Grove (L) vs. Lyons (R), Gray (R) vs. Walsh (R)

Blue Jays @ Red Sox
Key (L) vs. Lowe (R), Stieb (R) vs. Martinez (R)

Mariners @ Rays
Hanson (R) vs. Archer (R), Garcia (R) vs. Kazmir (L)

Twins @ Brewers
Blyleven (R) vs. Higuera (L), vs. Liriano (L) vs. Vuckovich (R)

Liriano is not an eligible starter for the Twins.

OK, just stick Kaat back in there then. Why isn't he eligible?

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Twins 9, Brewers 8
W - Kaat, L - Vuckovich, S - Guardado
HR: 1980 C.Cooper (1), 1979 P.Molitor (1)
HR: 1966 J.Kaat (1)

Lament wrote:

numbers wrote:IIRC the Red Sox had a mediocre first half last time, as well.

I went back and looked, cause I remembered them starting slow too, but by the All-Star Break they pretty much completely turned around.

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Indians 20-10
Tigers 19-11
Red Sox 19-11
Royals 19-11
Rangers 17-13
Cardinals 16-14
White Sox 15-15
Yankees 15-15
Reds 15-15
Cubs 15-15
Pirates 13-17
Expos 13-17
Orioles 12-18
Astros 12-18
Blue Jays 11-19
Mariners 9-21

cutuphalfdead wrote:And here are the results of that game:

https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxsco ... pbp=0&tf=0

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Twins 9, Brewers 8
W - Kaat, L - Vuckovich, S - Guardado
HR: 1980 C.Cooper (1), 1979 P.Molitor (1)
HR: 1966 J.Kaat (1)

Lament, update the standings accordingly.

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Diamondbacks 3, Phillies 2
W - Johnson, L - Garber

Diamondbacks 3, Phillies 2
W - Schilling, L - Garber
HR - Howard, Gonzalez

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Expos/Nationals 3, Giants 2
W - Martinez, L - Keefe, S - Wetteland

Giants 8, Expos/Nationals 6
W - Welch, L - Storen
HR - Galarraga, Zimmerman, Posey

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Braves 8, Astros 3
W - Maddux, L - Clemens
HR - Hornsby, Holmes

Astros 10, Braves 9 (10 innings)
W - Sambito, L - Wohlers, S - Wagner
HR - Alou, McGriff

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Dodgers 3, Cubs 2 (11 innings)
W - Kuo, L - Smith
HR - Wilson

Cubs 2, Dodgers 1
W - Sutcliffe, L - Drysdale, S - Sutter
HR - Sandberg

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Cardinals 5, Marlins 0
W - King, L - Brown

Cardinals 2, Marlins 1
W - Chamberlain, L - Nen, S - Sutter

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Mariners 5, Athletics 1
W - Johnson, L - Waddell, S - Sasaki

Athletics 6, Mariners 1
W - Blue, L - Hernandez
HR: - Henderson, Simmons

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Tigers 7, Twins 5
W - Sanchez, L - Aguilera
HR - Greenberg, Cabrera, Puckett, Hunter

Twins 7, Tigers 4
W - Nathan, L - Newhouser, S - Guardado
HR - Cabrera

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White Sox 8, Brewers 4
W - Cicotte, L - Sabathia, S - Thigpen
HR - Thomas

White Sox 7, Brewers 0
W - White, L - Caldwell
HR - Minoso, Fisk

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Blue Jays 7, Orioles 3
W - Clemens, L - Palmer
HR - Bautista, Donaldson, Green

Blue Jays 7, Orioles 6
W - Osuna, L - Mussina, S - Ryan
HR - Alomar, Donaldson 3, Green

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Red Sox 5, Rays 3
W - Schilling, L - Shields, S - Gordon
HR - Ramirez, Williams, Ellsbury

Red Sox 4, Rays 2
W - Clemens, L - Garza, S - Gordon
HR - Williams, Garciaparra

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AMERICAN LEAGUE
Athletics 18-8
White Sox 17-9
Blue Jays 16-10
Red Sox 16-10
Tigers 15-11
Twins 14-12
Rays 10-16
Mariners 9-17
Brewers 8-16
Orioles 7-19

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Astros 18-8
Giants 17-9
Cubs 17-9
Cardinals 15-11
Diamondbacks 12-14
Phillies 11-15
Expos/Nationals 11-15
Dodgers 10-16
Braves 10-16
Marlins 9-17

cutuphalfdead wrote:I mean, people always talk about 1999 and 2000 Pedro Martinez in the same breath. Those two years are his peak. So we went with 1999 in the first franchise tournament and I thought what the hell, let's try 2000 this time. It wasn't like I switched to 2005 or something.

And Pedro's been good, just not as good as last time.

Lament wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:I mean, people always talk about 1999 and 2000 Pedro Martinez in the same breath. Those two years are his peak. So we went with 1999 in the first franchise tournament and I thought what the hell, let's try 2000 this time. It wasn't like I switched to 2005 or something.

And Pedro's been good, just not as good as last time.

Thomas is the same way. He was MVP in 1993 and 1994, and was actually far better in 1994 than 1993. But 1994 Thomas was so awful in the last Franchise Tournament (and I think was awful in the LCS Era Tournament too, if I remember correctly).

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... fr04.shtml

Sometimes I feel like (outside of the White Sox fanbase) people forget what an absolute hitting machine Frank Thomas was from 1990-2000. Some of those numbers are obscene.