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Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 2:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:00 pm
by epilogue
Apparently, they've been screening this thing in theaters (not sure about the running time, theatrical cut) and are entering it in festivals. The filmmakers want an Oscar.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:04 pm
by Monkey_Driven
How long is each part of the miniseries?
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:08 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:How long is each part of the miniseries?
About an hour and a half.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:08 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:How long is each part of the miniseries?
About an hour and a half.
Thanks.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:09 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:How long is each part of the miniseries?
About an hour and a half.
Thanks.
I would HIGHLY recommend watching it all in one sitting if you can. It really is like one 8 hour long movie. But if you have to break it up, really try to watch Ep 1 and 2 together, if at all possible.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:14 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:15 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:How long is each part of the miniseries?
About an hour and a half.
Thanks.
I would HIGHLY recommend watching it all in one sitting if you can. It really is like one 8 hour long movie. But if you have to break it up, really try to watch Ep 1 and 2 together, if at all possible.
Woof, there's no way I can stay in one place longer than two to three hours at a time.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:17 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Apparently, they've been screening this thing in theaters (not sure about the running time, theatrical cut) and are entering it in festivals. The filmmakers want an Oscar.
I did not know this, but it makes sense. Stellar work.
Just read a few quick articles about it.
They've been doing week long screenings in NYC and LA. The whole thing.
All 8 hours with two intermissions. For the sole purpose of having it be Academy Award eligible.
And it should absolutely get nominated.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:20 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:How long is each part of the miniseries?
About an hour and a half.
Thanks.
I would HIGHLY recommend watching it all in one sitting if you can. It really is like one 8 hour long movie. But if you have to break it up, really try to watch Ep 1 and 2 together, if at all possible.
Woof, there's no way I can stay in one place longer than two to three hours at a time.
No worries. It's still great if you watch it piece by piece. The important thing is just to watch it however you can. I was just really taken with how much the first two parts really feel like one part.
I'd say the same about part four and five but I needed a little break between them because there are some truly disturbing images in part four. It's a great piece of reporting but they get into it. They show many of the crime scene photos and it's really difficult to look at.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:38 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:How long is each part of the miniseries?
About an hour and a half.
Thanks.
I would HIGHLY recommend watching it all in one sitting if you can. It really is like one 8 hour long movie. But if you have to break it up, really try to watch Ep 1 and 2 together, if at all possible.
Woof, there's no way I can stay in one place longer than two to three hours at a time.
No worries. It's still great if you watch it piece by piece. The important thing is just to watch it however you can. I was just really taken with how much the first two parts really feel like one part.
I'd say the same about part four and five but I needed a little break between them because there are some truly disturbing images in part four. It's a great piece of reporting but they get into it. They show many of the crime scene photos and it's really difficult to look at.
It's downright graphic. You can see inside their throats, muscles and connective tissue, etc. They were not just stabbed; they were BUTCHERED.
Oh, and I LOVED that one detective's estimation of how the attacks went down, based on the blood splatter and wounds to the victims. When he started spinning his theory, I was like, "Oh, come on." But the further he went, the more I believed his exact version of events.
That was actually Bill Hodgman's account (one of the prosecutors). And it did make a ton of sense.
But... and I admit that this kinda slips into possible tin-foil hat territory, but I've read/listened to/seen a lot from many forensic experts and almost all of credible ones agree that there were probably two people doing the butchering. OJ was probably not alone. Other than that one tiny detail, I'd agree, that Hodgman has it just about right, yeah. Makes tons of sense.
If there was only one killer, then, yes. He nailed it.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:43 pm
by epilogue
There was so much info that I already knew and remembered from when it happened in real time. Those photos, I'd never seen before. It was powerful, horrific and necessary.
One thing that was a surprise to me was that, I remember it being reported/taken as fact that Ron and Nicole were a couple. This more than implied that they were just casual friends. Also, it seems pretty clear that Ron wasn't supposed to have been there that night. Wrong place, wrong time.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:44 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:47 pm
by epilogue
There are so many tragedies within his story, too. Obviously the Brown and Goldman families. OJ's kids. LA. His fucking agent! Christ, that guy!
It's fucking epic. It's Greek Tragedy for our age. In one hundred years people won't believe it's true. If the whole thing hadn't been videotaped, people wouldn't believe it now.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:48 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:...
One thing that was a surprise to me was that, I remember it being reported/taken as fact that Ron and Nicole were a couple. This more than implied that they were just casual friends. Also, it seems pretty clear that Ron wasn't supposed to have been there that night. Wrong place, wrong time.
Yea, I noticed this too. When I was a teenager, the narrative I understood was "Ron and Nicole were an item." And then in this doc, it looks like he was just bringing her mom's eyeglasses back to Nicole's house (presumably in the envelope...except they weren't in there, right? So what was in that envelope?).
Oh, interesting. I don't remember talk about whether or not anything was in the envelope. I just assumed they were found at the scene.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:49 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: What movies are you watching?
Posted: Tue June 28, 2016 3:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.