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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:00 pm
by harmless
HardTI wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
GSMF, MYM
At least in GSMF that progression returns later on (the end jam I think?), but MYM for sure. That bugs the hell out of me too.
It's not amazingly bad. If the previous song and the next song have colourful intros as well, it'll just add to the ear candy. And that riff is repeated during the 'Go to heaven, that's swell' part -- just on the higher guitar, over the top.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:01 pm
by SomethingCreative
Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
yarp... I'd probably like Severed Hand a lot more if it wasn't for the intro. the intro builds and builds then the rest of the song is a let down till the bridge imo
but yeah severed hand was exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:02 pm
by HardTI
harmless wrote:HardTI wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
GSMF, MYM
At least in GSMF that progression returns later on (the end jam I think?), but MYM for sure. That bugs the hell out of me too.
It's not amazingly bad. If the previous song and the next song have colourful intros as well, it'll just add to the ear candy. And that riff is repeated during the 'Go to heaven, that's swell' part -- just on the higher guitar, over the top.
Ha ya know I actually didn't notice that before.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:02 pm
by Jaeti
Walker Bait wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
Yes! I remember the first time I heard Severed Hand and thought at the begining..."This is going to be epic!" And then the whole thing changed! lol I still love the song but damn...what could have been.
I think that intro music was on the EPK they released, too, so I was thinking the same thing for weeks before the disc showed up in my mailbox. Quite a letdown.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:04 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
GSMF, MYM
I love MYM that way, plus Mike incorporates the intro into the song near the end
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:05 pm
by harmless
HardTI wrote:harmless wrote:HardTI wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
GSMF, MYM
At least in GSMF that progression returns later on (the end jam I think?), but MYM for sure. That bugs the hell out of me too.
It's not amazingly bad. If the previous song and the next song have colourful intros as well, it'll just add to the ear candy. And that riff is repeated during the 'Go to heaven, that's swell' part -- just on the higher guitar, over the top.
Ha ya know I actually didn't notice that before.
It helps that they drop a hint of the intro back in the end
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:06 pm
by harmless
I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:08 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Might have killed the momentum
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:08 pm
by Lounge Lizard
Jaeti wrote:Walker Bait wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
Yes! I remember the first time I heard Severed Hand and thought at the begining..."This is going to be epic!" And then the whole thing changed! lol I still love the song but damn...what could have been.
I think that intro music was on the EPK they released, too, so I was thinking the same thing for weeks before the disc showed up in my mailbox. Quite a letdown.
EPK?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:09 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Might have killed the momentum
Might have, yeah. I guess dropping into it for even two beats of a bar, as if he'd dropped the rhythm and then picked it up again, would've been cool. But he doesn't usually do anything like that, so...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:10 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
Lounge Lizard wrote:Jaeti wrote:Walker Bait wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
Yes! I remember the first time I heard Severed Hand and thought at the begining..."This is going to be epic!" And then the whole thing changed! lol I still love the song but damn...what could have been.
I think that intro music was on the EPK they released, too, so I was thinking the same thing for weeks before the disc showed up in my mailbox. Quite a letdown.
EPK?
Electronic Press Kit. Usually a short video of the band talking about the songs, with footage of them performing the songs. Often shot in an annoyingly grainy and vintage filter.
We've had them for ST and Backspacer and the one for LB has been shown at the listening parties in Europe.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:11 pm
by Jaeti
Lounge Lizard wrote:Jaeti wrote:Walker Bait wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
Yes! I remember the first time I heard Severed Hand and thought at the begining..."This is going to be epic!" And then the whole thing changed! lol I still love the song but damn...what could have been.
I think that intro music was on the EPK they released, too, so I was thinking the same thing for weeks before the disc showed up in my mailbox. Quite a letdown.
EPK?
Electronic press kit --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5MKacPZg34
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:11 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Might have killed the momentum
Might have, yeah. I guess dropping into it for even two beats of a bar, as if he'd dropped the rhythm and then picked it up again, would've been cool. But he doesn't usually do anything like that, so...
that's... what... young... people...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:12 pm
by Lounge Lizard
lecherouslittlestump wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:Jaeti wrote:Walker Bait wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:SomethingCreative wrote: Also the thing about that intro clip is that it feels like it could go anywhere
True. That's also one of the things that are bugging me about Pearl Jam. They may start a song sometimes with an interesting chord progression but suddenly switch to something entirely different instead of building a melody around those chords. Take Severed Hand for example. There are a few others as well.
Yes! I remember the first time I heard Severed Hand and thought at the begining..."This is going to be epic!" And then the whole thing changed! lol I still love the song but damn...what could have been.
I think that intro music was on the EPK they released, too, so I was thinking the same thing for weeks before the disc showed up in my mailbox. Quite a letdown.
EPK?
Electronic Press Kit. Usually a short video of the band talking about the songs, with footage of them performing the songs. Often shot in an annoyingly grainy and vintage filter.
We've had them for ST and Backspacer and the one for LB has been shown at the listening parties in Europe.
Thanks
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:13 pm
by Thejambi
So .. We are getting an EP soon then eh?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:13 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Might have killed the momentum
Might have, yeah. I guess dropping into it for even two beats of a bar, as if he'd dropped the rhythm and then picked it up again, would've been cool. But he doesn't usually do anything like that, so...
that's... what... young... people...
I keep waiting for Matt to drop into a backbeat-tastic dnb rhythm with dropped beats and pauses everywhere. Still hasn't happened.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:13 pm
by harmless
Thejambi wrote:So .. We are getting an EP soon then eh?
6 months
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:14 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:Thejambi wrote:So .. We are getting an EP soon then eh?
6 months
From now or the end of the countdown?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:15 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Might have killed the momentum
Might have, yeah. I guess dropping into it for even two beats of a bar, as if he'd dropped the rhythm and then picked it up again, would've been cool. But he doesn't usually do anything like that, so...
that's... what... young... people...
I keep waiting for Matt to drop into a backbeat-tastic dnb rhythm with dropped beats and pauses everywhere. Still hasn't happened.
I loved that shit on Push Me Pull Me on top of Jeff's chemicalbrother bass line
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Mon September 09, 2013 7:15 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:I guess the only thing that'd improve that ending for me would be if Matt went back to that off-kilter rhythm for the last couple of bars.
Might have killed the momentum
Might have, yeah. I guess dropping into it for even two beats of a bar, as if he'd dropped the rhythm and then picked it up again, would've been cool. But he doesn't usually do anything like that, so...
that's... what... young... people...
I keep waiting for Matt to drop into a backbeat-tastic dnb rhythm with dropped beats and pauses everywhere. Still hasn't happened.
I loved that shit on Push Me Pull Me on top of Jeff's chemicalbrother bass line