Red Mosquito

epilogue wrote:

Ensign9 wrote:

Andy Greenwald wrote:One of the things that I think we have to cop to, that we love the show for, is that, as people who spent a worrying amount of their 30s and 40s parsing the tea leaves of Thunderbolts, we want a strong, confident, and smart, artistic person like Tony to almost retcon our childhoods into being worth it. All the energy we poured into Star Wars in the sandbox and weirdly have continued to, this show lifts up and dignifies our memories and all of the investment we made in this by saying "actually, there is more there. actually, it was a load-bearing dream."

UUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHGGGGGGG!

I fucking can't with Greenwald, anymore. What a myopic, spoiled, disconnected bore he's become.

Simple Torture wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ensign9 wrote:

Andy Greenwald wrote:One of the things that I think we have to cop to, that we love the show for, is that, as people who spent a worrying amount of their 30s and 40s parsing the tea leaves of Thunderbolts, we want a strong, confident, and smart, artistic person like Tony to almost retcon our childhoods into being worth it. All the energy we poured into Star Wars in the sandbox and weirdly have continued to, this show lifts up and dignifies our memories and all of the investment we made in this by saying "actually, there is more there. actually, it was a load-bearing dream."

UUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHGGGGGGG!

I fucking can't with Greenwald, anymore. What a myopic, spoiled, disconnected bore he's become.

I am not as hard on Greenwald as others are--I find myself agreeing with him a lot--but I hate this type of approach to nostalgia and art. It's only a half-step above the people who complain that Rian Johnson ruined their childhood because Luke was a dick in The Last Jedi or the absolute CHUDs who express with their full chest that Bella Ramsey was not attractive enough to be cast a child. You can simply say, "It made me feel like a kid again while also tickling the part of my brain that can only appreciate it as a mature person, which The Book of Boba Fett didn't " instead of "it dignifies our memories." It's not that it's pretentious--I'm fine with being pretentious--it's that he's suggesting that people should make art "this way and not that way," which at other times he rails against.

Simple Torture wrote: absolute CHUDs who express with their full chest that Bella Ramsey was not attractive enough to be cast a child.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I rewatched. The mon mothma stuff has been top notch. I love the whole wedding, including her dancing. Almost like she knows what she is about to become and take on, so she’s letting go one last time.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Simple Torture wrote: absolute CHUDs who express with their full chest that Bella Ramsey was not attractive enough to be cast a child.

woah, ease up on the anti-Daft Twat rhetoric.

daft twat wrote:Okay, finished the first three, and yeah, it’s just weird, innit?

Cassian starts by exuding coolness while talking to the thicc girl who gave him codes and access to the fighter. Then he bumblefucks his way around the docking bay and off the planet, careening into every wall imaginable and somehow taking no damage. The Empire could’ve used a few of those in the pursuit of Luke in the Death Star trench.

Bada mentioned the group in the jungle Cassian ended up with seemed like Stoners, and if you’ve seen Never Have I Ever (and if you haven’t, you fucking should), one of the groups was led by that show’s lead stoner Trent. The whole sequence was pretty dumb and sidelined the main character for 2 episodes. It was like if the Ewoks just kept the Endor team in the net for an hour of Jedi while Teebo and Chief Chirpa argued about dumb shit.

Meanwhile, Empire Gabe from the Office and his partner with the Tatooinely dry pussy have his mother over for a reenactment of every Everybody Loves Raymond episode. I laughed out loud at how he was lying on his bed after he dismissed himself because his mom was being snarky over the galactic fondue. I just wish they would have more explicitly hinted at the inevitable pegging that took place after his mother left.

Mon Mothma wants a number. I’ve got one. 50. She publicly gets bad news 50 times and then literally turns around and immediately puts on her party face a commensurate 50 times. Like a husband, I’m too stupid to even know what she was upset about 49 of the times. She turns down for what, though, and I’d love to have been her plus one back in the boudoir later that night. She got that Barbara Billingsly neck, if you’re old enough to know.

Finally, we have the farm people. Is the girl Cassian’s wife? I genuinely forgot. She is distractingly beautiful. I shudder to think what I would have done if I were alone with her as an imperial lieutenant and her husband was off planet. An attempted Disney plus rape, probably. Loved her spunk and his demise. Brasso not getting to fulfill his dream of tending rabbits and living off the fat of the land was a boner killer, though.

Simple Torture wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ensign9 wrote:

Andy Greenwald wrote:One of the things that I think we have to cop to, that we love the show for, is that, as people who spent a worrying amount of their 30s and 40s parsing the tea leaves of Thunderbolts, we want a strong, confident, and smart, artistic person like Tony to almost retcon our childhoods into being worth it. All the energy we poured into Star Wars in the sandbox and weirdly have continued to, this show lifts up and dignifies our memories and all of the investment we made in this by saying "actually, there is more there. actually, it was a load-bearing dream."

UUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHGGGGGGG!

I fucking can't with Greenwald, anymore. What a myopic, spoiled, disconnected bore he's become.

I am not as hard on Greenwald as others are--I find myself agreeing with him a lot--but I hate this type of approach to nostalgia and art. It's only a half-step above the people who complain that Rian Johnson ruined their childhood because Luke was a dick in The Last Jedi or the absolute CHUDs who express with their full chest that Bella Ramsey was not attractive enough to be cast a child. You can simply say, "It made me feel like a kid again while also tickling the part of my brain that can only appreciate it as a mature person, which The Book of Boba Fett didn't " instead of "it dignifies our memories." It's not that it's pretentious--I'm fine with being pretentious--it's that he's suggesting that people should make art "this way and not that way," which at other times he rails against.

Ensign9 wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ensign9 wrote:

Andy Greenwald wrote:One of the things that I think we have to cop to, that we love the show for, is that, as people who spent a worrying amount of their 30s and 40s parsing the tea leaves of Thunderbolts, we want a strong, confident, and smart, artistic person like Tony to almost retcon our childhoods into being worth it. All the energy we poured into Star Wars in the sandbox and weirdly have continued to, this show lifts up and dignifies our memories and all of the investment we made in this by saying "actually, there is more there. actually, it was a load-bearing dream."

UUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHGGGGGGG!

I fucking can't with Greenwald, anymore. What a myopic, spoiled, disconnected bore he's become.

I am not as hard on Greenwald as others are--I find myself agreeing with him a lot--but I hate this type of approach to nostalgia and art. It's only a half-step above the people who complain that Rian Johnson ruined their childhood because Luke was a dick in The Last Jedi or the absolute CHUDs who express with their full chest that Bella Ramsey was not attractive enough to be cast a child. You can simply say, "It made me feel like a kid again while also tickling the part of my brain that can only appreciate it as a mature person, which The Book of Boba Fett didn't " instead of "it dignifies our memories." It's not that it's pretentious--I'm fine with being pretentious--it's that he's suggesting that people should make art "this way and not that way," which at other times he rails against.

Andy's response to this would be, "Devour feculence."

Spoiler: show

I wonder if Cassian doesn't fire a snipper shot at the Storm Troopers or fully assassinates an Imperial officer, which sparks the Empire opening fire on the civilians. It line's up with Luthen's philosophy and what we saw him pull in season one, and would go a long way toward explaining Cassian's comments in Rogue One about all he has to make amends for. Maybe not, but I think it could be really cool and devastating.

epilogue wrote:The Ghorman massacre is 2 BBY, I believe, which means it won't be shown in the next arc (that drops tomorrow) but should be in the third arc (ep 7-9). I can't wait to finally get some concrete details about what actually happens; it's been a little vague in canon.

A prediction about that event:

Spoiler: show

I wonder if Cassian doesn't fire a snipper shot at the Storm Troopers or fully assassinates an Imperial officer, which sparks the Empire opening fire on the civilians. It line's up with Luthen's philosophy and what we saw him pull in season one, and would go a long way toward explaining Cassian's comments in Rogue One about all he has to make amends for. Maybe not, but I think it could be really cool and devastating.

dimejinky99 wrote:

epilogue wrote:The Ghorman massacre is 2 BBY, I believe, which means it won't be shown in the next arc (that drops tomorrow) but should be in the third arc (ep 7-9). I can't wait to finally get some concrete details about what actually happens; it's been a little vague in canon.

A prediction about that event:

Spoiler: show

I wonder if Cassian doesn't fire a snipper shot at the Storm Troopers or fully assassinates an Imperial officer, which sparks the Empire opening fire on the civilians. It line's up with Luthen's philosophy and what we saw him pull in season one, and would go a long way toward explaining Cassian's comments in Rogue One about all he has to make amends for. Maybe not, but I think it could be really cool and devastating.

If we’ve learned anything it’s that our theories and expectations always go out the window when it comes to Star Wars and what we actually end up.
But I like your idea a lot. Wonder if you’re on the money?

epilogue wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

epilogue wrote:The Ghorman massacre is 2 BBY, I believe, which means it won't be shown in the next arc (that drops tomorrow) but should be in the third arc (ep 7-9). I can't wait to finally get some concrete details about what actually happens; it's been a little vague in canon.

A prediction about that event:

Spoiler: show

I wonder if Cassian doesn't fire a snipper shot at the Storm Troopers or fully assassinates an Imperial officer, which sparks the Empire opening fire on the civilians. It line's up with Luthen's philosophy and what we saw him pull in season one, and would go a long way toward explaining Cassian's comments in Rogue One about all he has to make amends for. Maybe not, but I think it could be really cool and devastating.

If we’ve learned anything it’s that our theories and expectations always go out the window when it comes to Star Wars and what we actually end up.
But I like your idea a lot. Wonder if you’re on the money?

Totally! I'm not hanging anything on that theory. Just a thought I had that I think could be cool. But I'm just here to enjoy the ride. Excited to see how it all plays out!