Re: The Protest Thread
Posted: Sun July 05, 2020 7:42 pm
Yeah that's a good example.Mickey wrote:The cherry-picked stats about the... total number of protestors?
Yeah that's a good example.Mickey wrote:The cherry-picked stats about the... total number of protestors?
You do realize that a cherry-picked stat is one taken out of its context, right? Which context do you think is missing when someone notes that 15-26 million people have attended BLM protests this year?BurtReynolds wrote:Yeah that's a good example.Mickey wrote:The cherry-picked stats about the... total number of protestors?
And when it's not already a violent situation? Just start grappling, clubbing, spraying, tazing, and shooting!verb_to_trust wrote:Being in the vicinity of other people at a protest is exactly comparable to a police officer being dispatched to deal directly with a volatile situation!!!
So we're just going to assume every single time the police get called they beat people up? I get that you're all bougie white accountants who have been WFH for months now but gtfoh with that garbage.elliseamos wrote:And when it's not already a violent situation? Just start grappling, clubbing, spraying, tazing, and shooting!verb_to_trust wrote:Being in the vicinity of other people at a protest is exactly comparable to a police officer being dispatched to deal directly with a volatile situation!!!
I was mostly kidding, but it seemed like an equally absurd leap to say they were always responding to violent situations.verb_to_trust wrote:So we're just going to assume every single time the police get called they beat people up? I get that you're all bougie white accountants who have been WFH for months now but gtfoh with that garbage.elliseamos wrote:And when it's not already a violent situation? Just start grappling, clubbing, spraying, tazing, and shooting!verb_to_trust wrote:Being in the vicinity of other people at a protest is exactly comparable to a police officer being dispatched to deal directly with a volatile situation!!!
Mickey wrote:The fun thing about digital news--the article has already been updated and no longer says protestors.Bi_3 wrote:https://www.cbs46.com/news/shooting-lea ... 8.amp.html
A car attacked by protesters? Surely that doesn’t happena car exited the interstate and was subsequently stopped by armed protesters near the intersection of University Ave. and Pryor Rd. Authorities told CBS46 that's when gunfire was exchanged and the child was shot.
Mickey wrote:So leaving aside the fact that the young girl's shooting is no longer being associated with the protests (I checked multiple local news websites and not a single one describes the armed men as "protestors,--of course this could change as more evidence comes out but for now it seems best to move on from this specific example), you might be interested to know that a recent study about the protests estimated that there have been at least 4700 different events in which, collectively, 15 to 26 million people participated.
The link is here.
Just for those of us keeping score at home, that would mean you'd need 50 discrete instances of violence on innocent bystanders to even get a 1% figure, if we're judging each event as its own instance. But given how large and heterogeneous these protests are, it would probably make more sense, or it would be more persuasive, to argue based on total number of violent actors/radicals relative to overall group size in order to show that there really is a threat, either to bystanders or certain cherished ideals. So your magic number there would be anywhere from 150000 to 260000.
Purely an unrelated coincidence, not even sure why they would mention it:BurtReynolds wrote:https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/kemp-deploy-000-national-guard-troops-after-violent-weekend/nuGXOOMNsj0zkkoO9GLNPL/amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
"...to protect state buildings"
Thanks for nothing.
They say a passenger in the red Toyota got out and threw someone's scooter that had been left in the roadway. According to Bloomington police, a 29-year-old woman tried to intervene, walking in front of the car and putting her hands on the hood. The driver of the car then accelerated, with the woman ending up on the hood of the car. A 35-year-old man grabbed onto the side of the car as it pulled away.