Red Mosquito

Kevin Davis wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

RockPusher wrote:tree, if you were actually listening to me, you'd understand that I am not asking for an echo chamber at all.

Nobody has said "how can you like this"

That seems to be how you interpret someone else not liking it and discussing why they dont like it.

this is just patently false Strat, over and over again we've been told we must have impaired hearing and mental capacity for enjoying these songs

If this is in fact so, why do you give it any weight? Why not just say "I disagree" or ignore them?

Why couldn’t the people making flippant comments on the other side observe equal restraint?

Strat wrote:But anyone that disagrees with you, harmless, is bullying. So, done chatting about this stuff with you.

Kevin Davis wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

RockPusher wrote:tree, if you were actually listening to me, you'd understand that I am not asking for an echo chamber at all.

Nobody has said "how can you like this"

That seems to be how you interpret someone else not liking it and discussing why they dont like it.

this is just patently false Strat, over and over again we've been told we must have impaired hearing and mental capacity for enjoying these songs

If this is in fact so, why do you give it any weight? Why not just say "I disagree" or ignore them?

Why couldn’t the people making flippant comments on the other side observe equal restraint?

Strat wrote:But anyone that disagrees with you, harmless, is bullying. So, done chatting about this stuff with you.

This isn’t true; I have expressed my distaste for the production on “Dark Matter” as resolutely (if not as frequently) as Trag has, and have not once been accused of “bullying.” There have absolutely been moments over the past few weeks where MH has been on the receiving end of unkind comments that went simply beyond “disagreement” (i.e. the whole thing about listening to music through phone speakers), and sometimes even the “disagreement” is pointed and blatantly disrespectful (i.e. “you sound like a lunatic,” “stupid harmless,” etc.). Other remarks have just been pointlessly jerky (“how do you have time to post elsewhere, you already post 12k times per day here,” etc.). The fact that, at least once, these comments were characterized as “respectfully pedantic” suggests that perhaps the radar for this sort of thing around here isn’t quite as fine-tuned as one might hope.

Resiliency is a good quality, and disagreement is not bullying. But there is an expectation, especially online, that any time a person feels hurt or disrespected, it is inherently their fault for not being better at being disrespected. This is a really shitty way to treat people.

Kevin Davis wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Strat wrote:

RockPusher wrote:tree, if you were actually listening to me, you'd understand that I am not asking for an echo chamber at all.

Nobody has said "how can you like this"

That seems to be how you interpret someone else not liking it and discussing why they dont like it.

this is just patently false Strat, over and over again we've been told we must have impaired hearing and mental capacity for enjoying these songs

If this is in fact so, why do you give it any weight? Why not just say "I disagree" or ignore them?

Why couldn’t the people making flippant comments on the other side observe equal restraint?

Strat wrote:But anyone that disagrees with you, harmless, is bullying. So, done chatting about this stuff with you.

This isn’t true; I have expressed my distaste for the production on “Dark Matter” as resolutely (if not as frequently) as Trag has, and have not once been accused of “bullying.” There have absolutely been moments over the past few weeks where MH has been on the receiving end of unkind comments that went simply beyond “disagreement” (i.e. the whole thing about listening to music through phone speakers), and sometimes even the “disagreement” is pointed and blatantly disrespectful (i.e. “you sound like a lunatic,” “stupid harmless,” etc.). Other remarks have just been pointlessly jerky (“how do you have time to post elsewhere, you already post 12k times per day here,” etc.). The fact that, at least once, these comments were characterized as “respectfully pedantic” suggests that perhaps the radar for this sort of thing around here isn’t quite as fine-tuned as one might hope.

Resiliency is a good quality, and disagreement is not bullying. But there is an expectation, especially online, that any time a person feels hurt or disrespected, it is inherently their fault for not being better at being disrespected. This is a really shitty way to treat people.

Homeboyd wrote:I'm rather surprised this album hasn't leaked yet...multiple listening parties, a 500-theater run, cheesy digital marketing, and probably everyone who's ever met Ed, I mean, this thing is clearly out there. Someone of slightly lower moral character has to have had access...

Strat wrote:Harmless is guilty of all of these things. She's It as direct with her choice of words but make no mistake she is just as eager to act out similar behavior. It's just more passive. And gaslighting

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