Red Mosquito

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:it just makes them look like they're making it up as they go

this has been the case worldwide for a year now. nothing new.

I can understand and appreciate changes when based on new information, but outbreaks were happening when they drew up the plan they announced last week.

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:it just makes them look like they're making it up as they go

this has been the case worldwide for a year now. nothing new.

I can understand and appreciate changes when based on new information, but outbreaks were happening when they drew up the plan they announced last week.

are they scrapping the plan completely to go after the outbreaks, or just redirecting some doses towards the latter? gotta stay nimble against this thing.

https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367 ... 19521?s=19

Time to triple mask

I got an appointment for Monday with the J&J vaccine. The online system is a joke.

B wrote:I got an appointment for Monday with the J&J vaccine. The online system is a joke.

You're going to be vaccinated in three days, what's the problem?

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:it just makes them look like they're making it up as they go

this has been the case worldwide for a year now. nothing new.

I can understand and appreciate changes when based on new information, but outbreaks were happening when they drew up the plan they announced last week.

are they scrapping the plan completely to go after the outbreaks, or just redirecting some doses towards the latter? gotta stay nimble against this thing.

They added going after outbreaks yesterday after releasing a complete plan last week that did not include going after outbreaks.

Did they not realize outbreaks happen with Covid when they drew up the complete plan they released last week?

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

B wrote:I got an appointment for Monday with the J&J vaccine. The online system is a joke.

Did you try joining the fan club first?

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:I got an appointment for Monday with the J&J vaccine. The online system is a joke.

Did you try joining the fan club first?

Yes, but only Digital.

B wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:I got an appointment for Monday with the J&J vaccine. The online system is a joke.

Did you try joining the fan club first?

Yes, but only Digital.

Covid-F5

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

1.4% positive on over 100k tests today in IL. Good job guys!! Way to mask up!!

On the whole "masks don't work thing"...

I think they do, but there are various factors on how well they work. Durability of the mask, proper usage of the mask, etc.

Several news reports have stated we've seen historic lows of the seasonal influenza, probably in large part to social distancing, and masks.

Looking at a few RO (R-naught) numbers floating around, it appears that seasonal influenza has a lower R0 than COVID-19. So if our numbers are lower for a lower R0 virus because of the protections we put in place, then we can probably assume that our COVID numbers are lower by wearing the masks and social distancing.

So we can probably also assume if we didn't have the protections in place, the COVID deaths would be much higher. People complain of not seeing results of wearing the masks. Maybe we are seeing the results of wearing a mask, and it would have been a lot worse if the protections weren't in place.

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

1.4% positive on over 100k tests today in IL. Good job guys!! Way to mask up!!

cool, now see if you can find the data that waste of time tweet you posted should've had.

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

1.4% positive on over 100k tests today in IL. Good job guys!! Way to mask up!!

cool, now see if you can find the data that waste of time tweet you posted should've had.

It's right there in the tweet that mask compliance is and has been very high. If you want to dig up something to desperately counter what is plainly visible be my guest.

blueviper wrote:On the whole "masks don't work thing"...

I think they do, but there are various factors on how well they work. Durability of the mask, proper usage of the mask, etc.

Several news reports have stated we've seen historic lows of the seasonal influenza, probably in large part to social distancing, and masks.

Looking at a few RO (R-naught) numbers floating around, it appears that seasonal influenza has a lower R0 than COVID-19. So if our numbers are lower for a lower R0 virus because of the protections we put in place, then we can probably assume that our COVID numbers are lower by wearing the masks and social distancing.

So we can probably also assume if we didn't have the protections in place, the COVID deaths would be much higher. People complain of not seeing results of wearing the masks. Maybe we are seeing the results of wearing a mask, and it would have been a lot worse if the protections weren't in place.

Good article on vaccine efficacy that can help with the mask debate:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... virus.html

My state did the nursing homes, health care workers & very old people first (75+). Then went to a strictly aged based system - 65-74, 55-64, 45-54, 35-44, then wide open. I'm 42, I have to wait until April 12. I think May 3 it opens to everyone. And they allowed all teachers to be part of the 55-64 group. Over all it's working pretty well.

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

1.4% positive on over 100k tests today in IL. Good job guys!! Way to mask up!!

cool, now see if you can find the data that waste of time tweet you posted should've had.

It's right there in the tweet that mask compliance is and has been very high. If you want to dig up something to desperately counter what is plainly visible be my guest.

80% of the population wearing masks still means around 66 million people are running around without them. that's a massive number that could easily sway the daily positives between 50k and 300k over several months.

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

1.4% positive on over 100k tests today in IL. Good job guys!! Way to mask up!!

cool, now see if you can find the data that waste of time tweet you posted should've had.

It's right there in the tweet that mask compliance is and has been very high. If you want to dig up something to desperately counter what is plainly visible be my guest.

80% of the population wearing masks still means around 66 million people are running around without them. that's a massive number that could easily sway the daily positives between 50k and 300k over several months.

Remember when Redfield said a mask was better than a vaccine? These are the people you are casting your lot with?

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1367881664739819521?s=19

Time to triple mask

he should only be comparing the rate of infection among those who said they wear masks for that to actually represent anything useful.

1.4% positive on over 100k tests today in IL. Good job guys!! Way to mask up!!

cool, now see if you can find the data that waste of time tweet you posted should've had.

It's right there in the tweet that mask compliance is and has been very high. If you want to dig up something to desperately counter what is plainly visible be my guest.

80% of the population wearing masks still means around 66 million people are running around without them. that's a massive number that could easily sway the daily positives between 50k and 300k over several months.

Remember when Redfield said a mask was better than a vaccine? These are the people you are casting your lot with?

That’s a ridiculous statement. Surely he walked it back.