Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, I felt a stronger connection to Cindel, Wicket, and Teek than anyone in the "real" SW movies, including the OT. Fuck.
Sometime i think you are just trying to be outrageous for the hell of it
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, I felt a stronger connection to Cindel, Wicket, and Teek than anyone in the "real" SW movies, including the OT. Fuck.
Sometime i think you are just trying to be outrageous for the hell of it
I assure you my tears are real
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, I felt a stronger connection to Cindel, Wicket, and Teek than anyone in the "real" SW movies, including the OT. Fuck.
Sometime i think you are just trying to be outrageous for the hell of it
I assure you my tears are real
Its probably because you are an ewok. not a real person.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, I felt a stronger connection to Cindel, Wicket, and Teek than anyone in the "real" SW movies, including the OT. Fuck.
Sometime i think you are just trying to be outrageous for the hell of it
I assure you my tears are real
Its probably because you are an ewok. not a real person.
I would love to live life among the ewoks
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, I felt a stronger connection to Cindel, Wicket, and Teek than anyone in the "real" SW movies, including the OT. Fuck.
Sometime i think you are just trying to be outrageous for the hell of it
I assure you my tears are real
Its probably because you are an ewok. not a real person.
I would love to live life among the ewoks
oh god me too
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Do you think you'd be able to have children with them?
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Tommymtcon for year's best avatar/post combination.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, I felt a stronger connection to Cindel, Wicket, and Teek than anyone in the "real" SW movies, including the OT. Fuck.
Sometime i think you are just trying to be outrageous for the hell of it
I assure you my tears are real
Its probably because you are an ewok. not a real person.
I would love to live life among the ewoks

You are a furry thing and everything is you
You me me you its all related
And what's a boy to do
Just be an ewok and I will be too

An ewok
For you
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tommymtcom wrote:That's what kills me about it. Was he hard up? Did he really need this cash? Did he just want them to get made, but didn't want to do it himself?
i'm pretty sure he used a huge chunk of the money towards charities iirc
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Got done watching the OT over the last few days. Not watched them in a couple of years.

I have mixed feelings overall. For most of my life, Return of the Jedi was my number 1. But man, it bored me last night. I forgot how much screen time those damn Ewoks get. I don't mind them, but they really took away from the tension. Every time it cut to Luke/Vader/Emperor I was hooked. That shit is the best stuff of the OT for me. But then they'd go back to the Ewoks/Leia/Han trying to take down the shield and it was dull and unexciting.

I'm also struck by how unremarkable Vader seems to me now. Obi-Wan & Yoda do a good job throughout the OT of building Vader's legacy through his little tidbits of info he gives to Luke, so it makes him seem somewhat grander. But in A New Hope, he's fairly standard and doesn't do that much. Its Empire where he has his greatest moment, defeating Luke and then the big reveal about his paternalism. Its here that I think he becomes the mythical, iconic villain. But then in Jedi, he's basically Emperor's lackey and his redemption at the end felt a bit silly to me. Now, The Emperor....this dude is legit. The OT badly needed more of him. Creepy as hell. By the time I got done with it last night, I liked Vader less. And the prequels did nothing to make him any more interesting.

Maybe I'm just still excited about the fact we have a new Star Wars film and that it's super entertaining. But my ranking has totally changed now.

TFA is full of fan service, but it's not a bad thing. It was necessary to create some goodwill that had disappeared due to the prequel trilogy. Episode VIII is where it's going to get epic.
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Watched the whole interview with Lucas. He's actually bitter but legitimately with regards film making and distribution and marketing or studios even refusing to pick it up.

But he really should have checked himself when speaking about the sale to Disney.
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People thinking art made for fan service is "not a bad thing" is a depressing expression of millennial entitlement. This is where we are now. You want to be coddled and pandered to. You enjoy being infantilized. You fuckers deserve this garbage.
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Good morning, RM :)
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Gold star for schtick perseverance, LV.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:People thinking art made for fan service is "not a bad thing" is a depressing expression of millennial entitlement. This is where we are now. You want to be coddled and pandered to. You enjoy being infantilized. You fuckers deserve this garbage.
There is good art that plays to the desires of its audience, and attempts that fall flat. The former speaks to the way in which audience expectations and desires can be a legitimate part of the give and take within art. The latter is pandering (see the R2 and C3PO inclusions in the prequels - the ultimate in bad fan service pandering).

And most of the people on the board excited to see these call backs to the feel and style and tone of the originals are not millennials, by the way
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dimejinky99 wrote:Gold star for schtick perseverance, LV.
"Hey, I have a consistent opinion about art."

"Pft, schtick."
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dimejinky99 wrote:Gold star for schtick perseverance, LV.
What is truly remarkable about LV's schtick is that it is not being executed in defense of art house cinema, but in the name of blockbuster entertainment that happens to be less popular than the stuff he doesn't like.
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Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Gold star for schtick perseverance, LV.
"Hey, I have a consistent opinion about art."

"Pft, schtick."
His consistent opinion seems to be that people who don't like the big budget entertainment that I do are entitled morons. It's hard to take any analysis that is 50% name calling too seriously
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