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Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 4:39 pm
by Self
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Self wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Electromatic wrote:Well, it's a 4 game season gents.
and one of those games got flexed to Sunday night football :D Bucs and Cowboys are in prime time and i think its the first time for the Bucs to be a Sunday night game in 8 years.

Saints
Cowboys
Saints
Panthers
The key game I see is whichever one is at New Orleans. If the Bucs win that I can see 10-6, if not then 9-7--and usually 10 wins is the deciding factor toward getting into the playoffs.
the 10-6 Buccaneers of 2010 disagree with you
usually
I know, it's just funny that the one example that goes against your theory is actually the Bucs, lol.
The Patriots were 11-5 in 2008 and didn't get in.
Yes and clearly that stings for you as the Patriots' woes are very similar to the Bucs'. :/
That wasn't my point, but until Parcells got here our woes weren't all that dissimilar, pal.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 4:39 pm
by jwfocker
Regardless of making the playoffs I'm just pleased with the play on the field. Huge improvement.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 5:14 pm
by Green Habit
Self wrote:The Patriots were 11-5 in 2008 and didn't get in.
Same with the 1985 Broncos. Hell, the 2015 Super Bowl Champion Broncos could have missed the playoffs if they went 11-5.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 5:17 pm
by Green Habit
Self wrote:That wasn't my point, but until Parcells got here our woes weren't all that dissimilar, pal.
The Pats were only really bad during that short abyss in the late 80s-early 90s between Sullivan and Kraft owning the team. The Bucs have had much longer stretches of terrible play.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 5:57 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
jwfocker wrote:Regardless of making the playoffs I'm just pleased with the play on the field. Huge improvement.
100% agree, for quite a long time now if their opponent would score i would just feel like the game was already over, its a great feeling knowing that they are in every game and can come from behind to win.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 6:02 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Self wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Self wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Electromatic wrote:Well, it's a 4 game season gents.
and one of those games got flexed to Sunday night football :D Bucs and Cowboys are in prime time and i think its the first time for the Bucs to be a Sunday night game in 8 years.

Saints
Cowboys
Saints
Panthers
The key game I see is whichever one is at New Orleans. If the Bucs win that I can see 10-6, if not then 9-7--and usually 10 wins is the deciding factor toward getting into the playoffs.
the 10-6 Buccaneers of 2010 disagree with you
usually
I know, it's just funny that the one example that goes against your theory is actually the Bucs, lol.
The Patriots were 11-5 in 2008 and didn't get in.
Yes and clearly that stings for you as the Patriots' woes are very similar to the Bucs'. :/
That wasn't my point, but until Parcells got here our woes weren't all that dissimilar, pal.
I love you

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 6:12 pm
by Self
Green Habit wrote:
Self wrote:That wasn't my point, but until Parcells got here our woes weren't all that dissimilar, pal.
The Pats were only really bad during that short abyss in the late 80s-early 90s between Sullivan and Kraft owning the team. The Bucs have had much longer stretches of terrible play.
I started following during the mid 80s, so that stretch seemed a lot worse than it probably was.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 6:13 pm
by Self
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Self wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Self wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Electromatic wrote:Well, it's a 4 game season gents.
and one of those games got flexed to Sunday night football :D Bucs and Cowboys are in prime time and i think its the first time for the Bucs to be a Sunday night game in 8 years.

Saints
Cowboys
Saints
Panthers
The key game I see is whichever one is at New Orleans. If the Bucs win that I can see 10-6, if not then 9-7--and usually 10 wins is the deciding factor toward getting into the playoffs.
the 10-6 Buccaneers of 2010 disagree with you
usually
I know, it's just funny that the one example that goes against your theory is actually the Bucs, lol.
The Patriots were 11-5 in 2008 and didn't get in.
Yes and clearly that stings for you as the Patriots' woes are very similar to the Bucs'. :/
That wasn't my point, but until Parcells got here our woes weren't all that dissimilar, pal.
I love you
I know.
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Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 9:05 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Cecil Shorts out for the season.

Also, just read about a really good punter at some midwestern school, so I guess we know where the Bucs will be using their first pick next draft.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 9:34 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Cecil Shorts out for the season.

Also, just read about a really good punter at some midwestern school, so I guess we know where the Bucs will be using their first pick next draft.
if it wasnt for how well anger has been doing lately i would think that might be something to worry about. now they will probably make anger the highest paid punter of all time a kill any cap space they have , but we are Bucs fans, we cant have everything be good all at once lol

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 05, 2016 9:57 pm
by Green Habit
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:but we are Bucs fans, we cant have everything be good all at once lol
They picked the absolute perfect time in their franchise's history to have everything go their way.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 12, 2016 12:44 am
by E.H. Ruddock
5 in a row. Go Bucs

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 12, 2016 2:15 am
by jwfocker
Reality doesn't make sense right now.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 12, 2016 4:20 am
by E.H. Ruddock
jwfocker wrote:Reality doesn't make sense right now.
Those safeties have to stop, though. Second one in three weeks. Huge momentum killer

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 12, 2016 12:21 pm
by jwfocker
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Reality doesn't make sense right now.
Those safeties have to stop, though. Second one in three weeks. Huge momentum killer

I don't know man. I think it adds something very visceral to the game.

Also Josh Huff probably won't be on the team next week. Pretty awful game by the new guy.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 12, 2016 2:30 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
jwfocker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Reality doesn't make sense right now.
Those safeties have to stop, though. Second one in three weeks. Huge momentum killer

I don't know man. I think it adds something very visceral to the game.

Also Josh Huff probably won't be on the team next week. Pretty awful game by the new guy.
that was pretty awful on his part, and i learned that the free kick is not technically a punt since you still get a penalty if it goes out of bounds, i didnt realize that at all.

the Bucs are becoming the kings of the ugly wins lol, but a win is a win, hopefully the D can keep it up and the O can do much better then this week and the Cowboys can be another W for us.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 12, 2016 3:56 pm
by jwfocker
That O-line is a major concern. Smith and who ever has been lining up at right tackle have been straight trash for a couple weeks and it seems like they're getting worse.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 19, 2016 1:05 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
jwfocker wrote:That O-line is a major concern. Smith and who ever has been lining up at right tackle have been straight trash for a couple weeks and it seems like they're getting worse.
man was it obvious last night that the o line needs to be the main focus this off season.

now the Bucs need to win the last 2 and need a bit of help

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 19, 2016 1:32 pm
by jwfocker
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
jwfocker wrote:That O-line is a major concern. Smith and who ever has been lining up at right tackle have been straight trash for a couple weeks and it seems like they're getting worse.
man was it obvious last night that the o line needs to be the main focus this off season.

now the Bucs need to win the last 2 and need a bit of help

It was such a bad performance and what makes it so infuriating - the o-line play dropped off the cliff right when the team needed them the most. Just awful. Gosder was useless. literally a empty vessel of garbage. Whiffing on that screen play was the final straw. Winston played a epic 3rd quarter but lost his way a bit in the 4th quarter. He was pressing. He was rushing his throws, throwing high, and getting hit on every throw and a lot of that is on him but the 0-line did not help at all.

No running game. No weapons outside of Evans and Brate. The o-line can't hold their blocks for even a 3 second drop.

Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted: Mon December 19, 2016 2:45 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
jwfocker wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
jwfocker wrote:That O-line is a major concern. Smith and who ever has been lining up at right tackle have been straight trash for a couple weeks and it seems like they're getting worse.
man was it obvious last night that the o line needs to be the main focus this off season.

now the Bucs need to win the last 2 and need a bit of help

It was such a bad performance and what makes it so infuriating - the o-line play dropped off the cliff right when the team needed them the most. Just awful. Gosder was useless. literally a empty vessel of garbage. Whiffing on that screen play was the final straw. Winston played a epic 3rd quarter but lost his way a bit in the 4th quarter. He was pressing. He was rushing his throws, throwing high, and getting hit on every throw and a lot of that is on him but the 0-line did not help at all.

No running game. No weapons outside of Evans and Brate. The o-line can't hold their blocks for even a 3 second drop.
i kinda hope they dont try drafting another running back though, i think the combo of Martin, Rodgers and Simms is strong if they have a line in front of them that can create some holes to run through, im not sure what FA or the draft is looking like for O line help, especially drafting pretty late this year but they need to get some new players in there for sure