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Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Wed December 13, 2017 2:05 am
by 96583UP
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
96583UP wrote:2018: all your heroes rape dead people
Not as bad, TBH
what if they are raping dead heroes of yesteryear

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Wed December 13, 2017 9:11 pm
by dpupenya
Shit.....

Santa steps down after 100's of children accuse him of asking them to sit on his lap and then asking if they have been naughty. Mrs Claus spotted in Florida sans wedding band...

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Thu December 14, 2017 3:11 am
by doone
:lol:

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 1:09 am
by BurtReynolds
What are we bored with this now? Build the pyres higher!

Tavis Smiley
Morgan Spurlock
some congressman who killed himself.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 1:15 am
by Simple Torture
Does anyone have a red line in the sand, a celebrity or public figure that--if you heard they were a sexual predator/serial harasser/etc.--you'd lose faith in basically everything and want to curl up and die?

My wife told me it was Paul F. Thompkins for her, so I waited a few days and then began a conversation with, "Honey...did you hear about Paul F. Thompkins?" to watch a wave of horror go over her face. Marriage is fun.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 1:40 am
by BurtReynolds
Oh that guy has definitely forced someone to watch him masturbate.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 1:44 am
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:What are we bored with this now? Build the pyres higher!


some congressman who killed himself.
Image

Seems like a normal kinda guy

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 1:46 am
by Bi_3
Simple Torture wrote:Does anyone have a red line in the sand, a celebrity or public figure that--if you heard they were a sexual predator/serial harasser/etc.--you'd lose faith in basically everything and want to curl up and die?

My wife told me it was Paul F. Thompkins for her, so I waited a few days and then began a conversation with, "Honey...did you hear about Paul F. Thompkins?" to watch a wave of horror go over her face. Marriage is fun.
I would be sad if some in the band had committed assault. I guess that’s pretty selfish though.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 2:04 am
by LoathedVermin72
Tom Hanks, of course. Or Steven Spielberg.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 2:43 am
by 96583UP
Bill Cosby

glad he was vindicated by a court of law

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 2:49 am
by BurtReynolds
John McAfee

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 2:54 am
by 96583UP
BurtReynolds wrote:John McAfee 2020
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Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 3:35 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
I think we should all operate under the assumption that people are people, and are capable of abhorrent behavior at any time for any reason, and therefore shouldn't buy into a character the media sells you that you then put on a pedestal.

Chris Cornell's suicide really changed the way I look at the world.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Fri December 15, 2017 9:25 pm
by Bi_3
Better pass tax reform ASAP!

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Sat December 16, 2017 4:33 am
by Simple Torture

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Sun December 17, 2017 2:33 pm
by Bi_3
Chris Matthews.



Also, can some explain What Matt Damon said that was so bad? I’m not giving buzzfeed the satisfaction of clicking on that link

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Sun December 17, 2017 3:18 pm
by verb_to_trust
He just seems really tone deaf on the subject and kind of minimized the actions of CK.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Sun December 17, 2017 3:20 pm
by LoathedVermin72
This is the same guy that said diversity only needs to be in front of the camera, not behind it, so I'm not surprised that he's making dense comments about this.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Sun December 17, 2017 3:29 pm
by Bi_3
ABC had it...
Peter Travers: We live now in a different age, in a political age. There’s a lot of dissidence that goes on in the world that could affect you as an actor. We’re also in the age of people charged with sexual misconduct. This is everywhere. How do you react to that? Especially you, as the father of four girls.

Matt Damon: I think we’re in this watershed moment. I think it’s great. I think it’s wonderful that women are feeling empowered to tell their stories, and it’s totally necessary … I do believe that there’s a spectrum of behavior, right? And we’re going to have to figure — you know, there’s a difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right? Both of those behaviors need to be confronted and eradicated without question, but they shouldn’t be conflated, right? You know, we see somebody like Al Franken, right? — I personally would have preferred if they had an Ethics Committee investigation, you know what I mean? It’s like at what point — you know, we’re so energized to kind of get retribution, I think.

And we live in this culture of outrage and injury, and, you know, that we’re going to have to correct enough to kind of go, “Wait a minute. None of us came here perfect.” You know what I mean? … The Louis C.K. thing, I don’t know all the details. I don’t do deep dives on this, but I did see his statement, which kind of, which [was] arresting to me. When he came out and said, “I did this. I did these things. These women are all telling the truth.” And I just remember thinking, “Well, that’s the sign of somebody who — well, we can work with that” … Like, when I’m raising my kids, this constant personal responsibility is as important as anything else they learn before they go off in the world.

And the fear for me is that right now, we’re in this moment where at the moment — and I hope it doesn’t stay this way — the clearer signal to men and to younger people is, deny it. Because if you take responsibility for what you did, your life’s going to get ruined …

I mean, look, as I said, all of that behavior needs to be confronted, but there is a continuum. And on this end of the continuum where you have rape and child molestation or whatever, you know, that’s prison. Right? And that’s what needs to happen. OK? And then we can talk about rehabilitation and everything else. That’s criminal behavior, and it needs to be dealt with that way. The other stuff is just kind of shameful and gross, and I just think … I don’t know Louis C.K.. I’ve never met him. I’m a fan of his, but I don’t imagine he’s going to do those things again. You know what I mean? I imagine the price that he’s paid at this point is so beyond anything that he — I just think that we have to kind of start delineating between what these behaviors are.

That's not an unreasonable take on it.

Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff

Posted: Sun December 17, 2017 3:56 pm
by spike
Seems strawmanish. He says we need to differentiate between rape and what Franken or CK did, but no one's suggested they be locked up, just shamed.