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Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:18 pm
by BurtReynolds
I doubt anyone gets kicked out over it.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:20 pm
by Strat
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:I just heard about that dress code thing. WTF. Pretentious douchers.

I get that they want it to be an event but ordering a dress code and then berating the ones who dont abide?

Man alvie, ballsy.
How are they going to 'berate the ones that don't abide'? Will this actually happen?

http://www.spin.com/articles/arcade-fir ... rena-tour/

berating was a strong word but:

"To anyone who felt uncomfortable dressing up — I'm not sorry... At least 70 percent of you are getting laid tonight... As long as you showered. That's the secret, boys."


This pretentiousness seeps into their music and I think thats why it has never really moved me much. Many great tracks but overall i just cant get into them...

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:25 pm
by harmless
Strat wrote:
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:I just heard about that dress code thing. WTF. Pretentious douchers.

I get that they want it to be an event but ordering a dress code and then berating the ones who dont abide?

Man alvie, ballsy.
How are they going to 'berate the ones that don't abide'? Will this actually happen?

http://www.spin.com/articles/arcade-fir ... rena-tour/

berating was a strong word but:

"To anyone who felt uncomfortable dressing up — I'm not sorry... At least 70 percent of you are getting laid tonight... As long as you showered. That's the secret, boys."


This pretentiousness seeps into their music and I think thats why it has never really moved me much. Many great tracks but overall i just cant get into them...
Pearl Jam did way more pretentious arsehole-ish things back in the day: 'mosquito bites'? Also, I don't even understand what this says. Is it Win? What does he even mean by it?

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:26 pm
by Strat
How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:27 pm
by BurtReynolds
Arcade Fire is pretentious? Thats a shocking revelation.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:28 pm
by Jorge
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
Making fun of the size of a girl's breasts is several dozen notches above implementing a dress code for your show in the asshole scale.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:30 pm
by Strat
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
Making fun of the size of a girl's breasts is several dozen notches above implementing a dress code for your show in the asshole scale.

Im not arguing assholeness.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:31 pm
by harmless
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
How is that even a question? Ed was a cruel, misogynistic little whiny bitch in that moment, who publicly and aggressively humiliated a woman who was just expressing affections in the same way people have been doing at gigs for decades. Would he have berated a man who took his top off in the crowd? Fuck no. You really want to compare that to requiring a dress code at an event?

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:32 pm
by Strat
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
How is that even a question? Ed was a cruel, misogynistic little whiny bitch in that moment, who publicly and aggressively humiliated a woman who was just expressing affections in the same way people have been doing at gigs for decades. Would he have berated a man who took his top off in the crowd? Fuck no. You really want to compare that to requiring a dress code at an event?

Asshole and pretentious are two different things. Yes, vedder was an asshole. Another breaking newsflash: Vedder can be a major douche.


Arcade Fire are super fucking pretentious.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:34 pm
by Jorge
Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
Making fun of the size of a girl's breasts is several dozen notches above implementing a dress code for your show in the asshole scale.

Im not arguing assholeness.
I misread the convo

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:35 pm
by Heathen
*flashes tits*

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:37 pm
by harmless
Strat wrote:
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
How is that even a question? Ed was a cruel, misogynistic little whiny bitch in that moment, who publicly and aggressively humiliated a woman who was just expressing affections in the same way people have been doing at gigs for decades. Would he have berated a man who took his top off in the crowd? Fuck no. You really want to compare that to requiring a dress code at an event?

Asshole and pretentious are two different things. Yes, vedder was an asshole. Another breaking newsflash: Vedder can be a major douche.


Arcade Fire are super fucking pretentious.
I compared this move to Ed's being a 'pretentious asshole'. Just because Ed wasn't / isn't a hipster, it doesn't mean he wasn't being both, as if the terms are mutually exclusive. Ed was in a giant rock band and felt that he could do whatever the fuck he wanted with that microphone, even shout down a woman to rapturous applause. If that's not pretentious, I'd like to know what definition you're going by.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:38 pm
by Strat
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:How is humiliating a person dying for attention and flashing her tits at a show even remotely pretentious or in the same league as making your audience show up in specific well dressed attire?
How is that even a question? Ed was a cruel, misogynistic little whiny bitch in that moment, who publicly and aggressively humiliated a woman who was just expressing affections in the same way people have been doing at gigs for decades. Would he have berated a man who took his top off in the crowd? Fuck no. You really want to compare that to requiring a dress code at an event?

Asshole and pretentious are two different things. Yes, vedder was an asshole. Another breaking newsflash: Vedder can be a major douche.


Arcade Fire are super fucking pretentious.
I compared this move to Ed's being a 'pretentious asshole'. Just because Ed wasn't / isn't a hipster, it doesn't mean he wasn't being both, as if the terms are miutually exclusive. Ed was in a giant rock band and felt that he could whatever the fuck he wanted with that microphone, even shout down a woman to rapturous applause. If that's not pretentious, I'd like to know what definition you're going by.

How do you feel about the quarter rant incident from mr. vedder?

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:39 pm
by harmless
All I'm saying is, yes, they're different things, but I know which one would make me lose interest in a band quicker.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:41 pm
by Strat
harmless wrote:All I'm saying is, yes, they're different things, but I know which one would make me lose interest in a band quicker.
Just a basic disagreement in our base desires then friend!

I personally think if some drunk girl is flashing her tits and looking for attention, she deserves to be called out for being an idiot.

:peace:

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 6:45 pm
by BurtReynolds
i am not in favor of dissuading shirtlessness at shows. That is my position.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 7:00 pm
by matt reeder
I'm actually okay with the dress code. I kind of like the idea of a costume ball. I just don't think it's very practical when they play places like the Gorge, where it's insanely hot in August.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 7:10 pm
by liebzz
I applauded when Eddie said that at the show (I was there, man). I mean, maybe it is pretentious to knock someone down for that, but she had to know she wasn't exactly at a Poison or Def Leppard show. If anything, with that kind of begging for attention, she probably still brags about being chastised by Eddie Vedder at a rock concert.

Conversely, if Arcade Fire were playing Lincoln Center, Carnegie Hall, or even the Apollo for that matter, I could almost...almost see it (then it would only be an insult because they should have assumed people would dress better), but a suit at the Barclays Center!? Sure, and the next time I go to the movies I'll get a tux and pretend I'm at the premiere.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 7:10 pm
by EJ
This is going to be a joke. I'd be surprised if there's more than 25% participation in this nonsense.

Re: Arcade Fire

Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 7:30 pm
by Norah
Yeah it's not going to work at arena/amphitheater shows. I would totally put on a suit if it was at the House of Blues or something like that.