Red Mosquito

96583UP wrote: i'm sorry burt

on the plus side, try anarcho-syndicalism you might like it

Made up fairytale nonsense. Give me a real ideology like anarcho-primitivism.

The things a corporation does to make money, the practices it engages in, the policies its lobbyists push for, and the things its brand account says on Twitter, all of these are the same thing, you rubes, you fucking imbeciles.

Conservatives don't hold any power because no brand account is going to tweet "he didn't do nuffin" after the next cop shooting.

i can't tell what is a sarcastic comment anymore

conservatives run the Federal Reserve and the Supreme Court

they have all the power

Yeah but those aren't real conservatives.

i see

indeed, we are long overdue in this thread for definitions of 'conservative' and 'liberal'

those should have been step 1

instead we jumped straight to step 10:

Spoiler: show

potty-talk

tragabigzanda wrote:Burt I’m not sure how your defining “institutions,” but I guess you’re not counting any of the Fortune 500 companies or Dow Industrial giants?

I'm talking general categories: entertainment/culture production, the church, the government, the school system, the news media, social media (edit: forgot corporations and banks, which is a huge omission!)
Center left liberals control nearly all of them (ranging from slight control to total domination.) That doesn't mean conservatives don't have some power here and there within those categories.

Maybe I shouldn't say "interests" because some interpret that as "what's good for them" rather than "their desires". Everybody thinks they know what good for them, and what do you know, it means accepting their politics!

96583UP wrote:i see

indeed, we are long overdue in this thread for definitions of 'conservative' and 'liberal'

those should have been step 1

instead we jumped straight to step 10:

Spoiler: show

potty-talk

Language and definitions are a huge hurdle to be sure. I've tried to differentiate between establishment republicans (including their donors) and the populist right when I can. It's not the same thing.

Language keeps me locked and repeating

Maybe a visual aid will help.

As you can see, there are two "rights". They are sometimes aligned, sure, but other times not.

where does Conservatism fall on this chart? i don't see it

looks like they really dislike Pat Buchanan

96583UP wrote:where does Conservatism fall on this chart? i don't see it

All I know is that there are two sides: Either you are a democrat, or you are a republican.

in Canada they have a Marijuana Party

oh no its getting out of hand!

I haven't even started on the political compass tesseract.

i still don't see Conservatism on here

so i'll just go ahead and define it:

- going to church
- being against abortion
- likes baseball
- believes in smaller government
- believes in states' rights
- wages war for economic gain
- lowers corporate taxes
- uses airport bathrooms for anonymous gay sex


what did i miss

sounds more neocon.

96583UP wrote:i still don't see Conservatism on here

so i'll just go ahead and define it:

- going to church
- being against abortion
- likes baseball
- believes in smaller government
- believes in states' rights
- wages war for economic gain
- lowers corporate taxes
- uses airport bathrooms for anonymous gay sex


what did i miss

Is Biden a conservative, you think?

Y'all, in this thread we're so close to answering all of this guy's questions
I'm just enjoying Burt debating again. He really got iced there for a minute.