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Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 5:16 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:Why wouldn't he have been allowed to say that under Trump?
Sorry, by "peasants" I meant us lowly CNN viewers. BUT, you know, recall the response to previous assertion that the lab might be the source (this from Josh Rogin's book):
By the summer of 2020, even Americans were souring on China, polls showed. This was a problem for Democratic leaders, who wanted to take a tougher stance on China but didn’t want to appear to be punishing Beijing, lest that be seen as validating Trump’s efforts to deflect blame for his own failures in dealing with the crisis. They also had concerns that Trump’s anti-China rhetoric was fueling an increase of attacks on Asians and Asian Americans. To show that it was active on China, the Democrat-led House passed several bills on Tibet, the Uighurs and Hong Kong, which all went through with strong bipartisan support. But when the Republicans put forth bills that sought to assign blame for the outbreak to China or call for investigations into the virus’s origins, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) ordered her caucus not to cooperate with the Republicans.
When Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) put forward a resolution calling for an investigation into the virus’s origin, Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) was the only Democrat to sign on. His fellow Democrat Judy Chu of California called Moulton and said he was supporting racism. Moulton took his name off the bill.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 6:18 pm
by B
I'm not sure why Americans, a great many of whom hate our government, can't seem to be critical of a foreign government without hating people who happen to be from and/or in that country.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 7:54 pm
by bada
Pretty sure that's a universal defect. See every war ever.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 8:06 pm
by B
I might understand it in the context of war.
But Chinese-Americans don't run the fucking Wuhan lab.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 8:14 pm
by BurtReynolds
B wrote:I'm not sure why Americans, a great many of whom hate our government, can't seem to be critical of a foreign government without hating people who happen to be from and/or in that country.
The reason it doesn't make any sense is that its largely a media invention. It's not real.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 8:34 pm
by spike
burt, would you be able to list the things that aren't an invention of the media? shouldn't take more than thirty seconds to type out, and'll clear it up for everyone.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 8:38 pm
by Peeps
im scheduled for wed at noon for dose 1
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 8:50 pm
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:burt, would you be able to list the things that aren't an invention of the media? shouldn't take more than thirty seconds to type out, and'll clear it up for everyone.
Corruption of the media is not a media invention.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 8:54 pm
by simple schoolboy
BurtReynolds wrote:B wrote:I'm not sure why Americans, a great many of whom hate our government, can't seem to be critical of a foreign government without hating people who happen to be from and/or in that country.
The reason it doesn't make any sense is that its largely a media invention. It's not real.
The blaming it on Trump definitely seems hopeful on their part. In the places you see Asians getting attacked, there's been friction between them and certain demographics for decades.
But sure, lets go ahead and point the finger at Trump and white supremacy because those are the underlying causes for all the problems in this country.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 9:01 pm
by BurtReynolds
The whole #AsianHate thing was really weird to watch unfold. The timing was all off, and trying to blame it on MAGA hats was pretty clumsy. Even after the white guy shot up the massage parlors, that narrative doesn't seem to have a lot of impact. Maybe they are just desperate for ratings after Trump and will try anything. A real unforced error IMO.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 9:03 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:spike wrote:burt, would you be able to list the things that aren't an invention of the media? shouldn't take more than thirty seconds to type out, and'll clear it up for everyone.
Corruption of the media is not a media invention.
everything else is then. got it.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 9:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:spike wrote:burt, would you be able to list the things that aren't an invention of the media? shouldn't take more than thirty seconds to type out, and'll clear it up for everyone.
Corruption of the media is not a media invention.
everything else is then. got it.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Fri March 26, 2021 9:59 pm
by Bi_3
So if we circle back a bit, the answer to why it wasn’t discussed previously was antitrumpism got in the way of us taking action while it was still possible to find uncompromised evidence.
It’s a very positive development though that CNN is willing to even air the lab leak view now.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Sat March 27, 2021 7:57 pm
by verb_to_trust
A lot of people are freaking out here because numbers are on an UPTICK. It's a seasonal respiratory virus. Public health weirdos are geeked there are so many people who think all the security theater actually works though. Can you imagine if the majority of the population was smart enough to realize they can't do anything to stop this? It'd be mayhem.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Sat March 27, 2021 10:02 pm
by Stickman
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Sat March 27, 2021 11:28 pm
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:A lot of people are freaking out here because numbers are on an UPTICK. It's a seasonal respiratory virus. Public health weirdos are geeked there are so many people who think all the security theater actually works though. Can you imagine if the majority of the population was smart enough to realize they can't do anything to stop this? It'd be mayhem.
No one’s ever claimed it could be stopped, strawman.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Sun March 28, 2021 1:59 am
by verb_to_trust
spike wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:A lot of people are freaking out here because numbers are on an UPTICK. It's a seasonal respiratory virus. Public health weirdos are geeked there are so many people who think all the security theater actually works though. Can you imagine if the majority of the population was smart enough to realize they can't do anything to stop this? It'd be mayhem.
No one’s ever claimed it could be stopped, strawman.
Are you going to venture out now that you've had the magic potion? I've got a glory hole at Liars Club with your name on it.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Sun March 28, 2021 3:35 am
by spike
you used that one already
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Sun March 28, 2021 3:58 am
by verb_to_trust
spike wrote:you used that one already
The glory hole? I haven't touched it. I'm saving it for you.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Mon March 29, 2021 8:39 pm
by Bi_3