Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

[LoathedVermin72]

classic stip

[stip]

I don't like the Beatles, Neil Young, The Who, or any number of musical sacred cows. I can go on at length as to what I don't like about any of them. But after a while I have to admit that in the face of the critical and popular adulation these artists have sustained over time my issues are idiosyncratic to my personal tastes rather than anything inherently flawed in either those artists or (and this is important) the audience that appreciates them

[LoathedVermin72]

The Beatles, Neil Young, and The Who are a flawless comparison to TFA. I see no problems with that example at all.

[stip]

No, I imagine that you wouldn't

[B]

"If you had been told ahead of time that this movie was about an orphan on a desert planet who is strong with the force helping a droid on a secret mission with help from Han Solo and Chewbacca, and eventually the rebels destroy a planet-sized weapon and defeat a Darth Vader like character, would you have been excited about this movie?"

What part of that did we not know going into this? That Rey was strong with the force?

Yeah, none of that kept anyone from being excited about seeing this movie.

[LoathedVermin72]

Apparently I need to remember sarcasm arrows when talking to stip

[tommymtcom]

Sarcasm arrow lol

I can't believe that's still a thing.

[stip]

Sorry, I read that as IN comparison to TFA

[McParadigm]

People thinking art made for fan service is "not a bad thing" is a depressing expression of millennial entitlement. This is where we are now. You want to be coddled and pandered to. You enjoy being infantilized. You fuckers deserve this garbage.

I doubt any generation's nostalgia and arrested development will be as thoroughly pandered to by the movie industry as mine.

[dimejinky99]

Hey stip.
this is the podcast you're looking for. These guys get it, both all the good and the bad points. My favourite listen on force awakens yet.
http://forcecenterpod.podomatic.com/ent ... 0_00-08_00

[stip]

I presume this will be the case for everything going forward - the double shelf life. We are just first. I suppose insofar as our stuff takes root we will have a larger footprint.

Given the way the Internet helped destroy common cultural touchstones in the name of individualized experience the reproduction of shared characters and broad stories helps replace some of what was lost.

[stip]

Hey stip.
this is the podcast you're looking for. These guys get it, both all the good and the bad points. My favourite listen on force awakens yet.
http://forcecenterpod.podomatic.com/ent ... 0_00-08_00

I'm away until Saturday - I'll listen this weekend

[McParadigm]

I presume this will be the case for everything going forward - the double shelf life. We are just first. I suppose insofar as our stuff takes root we will have a larger footprint.

Given the way the Internet helped destroy common cultural touchstones in the name of individualized experience the reproduction of shared characters and broad stories helps replace some of what was lost.

The absence of a substantial collection of iconically shared characters and culture unique to them will be part of the upcoming generations' reduced ability to get sucked into this trashy trap. That, and expanding entertainment technologies that will probably change a lot of how we approach storytelling.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Hey stip.
this is the podcast you're looking for. These guys get it, both all the good and the bad points. My favourite listen on force awakens yet.
http://forcecenterpod.podomatic.com/ent ... 0_00-08_00

I'm away until Saturday - I'll listen this weekend

If you are posting on rm you can listen to a podcast, stip. The Internet can do many things

[stip]

No it cant

[dimejinky99]

Hey stip.
this is the podcast you're looking for. These guys get it, both all the good and the bad points. My favourite listen on force awakens yet.
http://forcecenterpod.podomatic.com/ent ... 0_00-08_00

I'm away until Saturday - I'll listen this weekend

They talk about the characters agency a lot

[dimejinky99]

Hate noticing shit.

Why don't the X wings blow up Kylos big ship with the fins and the troop transports at the battle on Maz's planet?

That's gonna bug me.

[McParadigm]

He has a big ship?

Is it black?

[LoathedVermin72]

He has a big ship?

Is it black?

It looks just like Vader's Imperial Cruiser from ROTJ, except now it doesn't have the top fin.

[dimejinky99]

He has a big ship?

Is it black?

It looks just like Vader's Imperial Cruiser from ROTJ, except now it doesn't have the top fin.

Symbolic of the many things he lacks in his quest to be his grandfather