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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 1:56 am
by Ms Harmless
Tj wrote:I am thinking it's not Dark Matter as we thing of in physics, but dark matter as when you say "it's a dark matter, but we need to talk about blank. I think this is rock opera.
it's a deliberate pun

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 1:57 am
by stip
Jaeti wrote:As more lyrics come into focus, there's sofuckingmuch to be said about this album being titled "dark matter."

I don't do that sort of thing, but I'm sure stip's on it.
I'm still mostly thinking about Waiting for Stevie. I haven't really given the rest of the album the attention it deserves.

But review should be Saturday night at the latest.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 1:58 am
by stip
RockPusher wrote:
dad wrote:I love this stupid band, and it's pretty great how much joy they still bring me after thirty years.

I'm also glad there's this little corner of the internet where I can share with others who love them just as much.
Was just sayin', this is what it must feel like to be in a long relationship and just when you were kind of tired and on autopilot a little your lover blows your mind with how beautiful they are
RM is usually a bunch of guys complaining about their ex, but they hang around because one day she might, just might, take them back...

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 1:59 am
by RockPusher
stip wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
dad wrote:I love this stupid band, and it's pretty great how much joy they still bring me after thirty years.

I'm also glad there's this little corner of the internet where I can share with others who love them just as much.
Was just sayin', this is what it must feel like to be in a long relationship and just when you were kind of tired and on autopilot a little your lover blows your mind with how beautiful they are
RM is usually a bunch of guys complaining about their ex, but they hang around because one day she might, just might, take them back...
:heartbeat:

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:00 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Good thing i hate ranking things because other than three songs at the bottom i don’t know how i could rank the rest of the songs, i love them all so much

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:02 am
by RockPusher
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Good thing i hate ranking things because other than three songs at the bottom i don’t know how i could rank the rest of the songs, i love them all so much
How many of those three songs are the singles?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:03 am
by E.H. Ruddock
RockPusher wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Good thing i hate ranking things because other than three songs at the bottom i don’t know how i could rank the rest of the songs, i love them all so much
How many of those three songs are the singles?
:lol: guilty as charged. DM and something special are fine in the context of the album. I like them just not as much as the rest of the songs. But i just can’t get in to Running. It feels like it belongs on a different album

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:05 am
by RockPusher
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Good thing i hate ranking things because other than three songs at the bottom i don’t know how i could rank the rest of the songs, i love them all so much
How many of those three songs are the singles?
:lol: guilty as charged. DM and something special are fine in the context of the album. I like them just not as much as the rest of the songs. But i just can’t get in to Running. It feels like it belongs on a different album
This cracks me the fuck up. *Almost* feels like next level marketing. Lol.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:07 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:13 am
by Strat
dad wrote:I love this stupid band, and it's pretty great how much joy they still bring me after thirty years.

I'm also glad there's this little corner of the internet where I can share with others who love them just as much.
I love hearing this from you. As one of the posters on this board who are mostly cold on PJ the last however many years, btu has such great taste in music that i admire, just melts my heart you are enjoying this.

And this is not uncommon from people on this board.

That is amazing.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:13 am
by RockPusher
Closers ranking:

All or None
Release
Indifference
Setting Sun
Parting Ways
Around the Bend
All those Yesterdays
Inside Job
River Cross
The End
Future Days

If we include Immortality, it probably slots between All or None and Release. I think Setting Sun may rise on this list.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:14 am
by Hypnos
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s frustrating that for all the greatness this album offers, they still allow for some of their worst tendencies: the speedy punker that’ll give Ed a stroke, the syrupy song that should’ve been on a solo album, no regard for production. Just be great. Is that so hard?
Yield had the same tropes, spritzy rocker in MFC, and syrupy song aka Wishlist and is unabashedly loved by the fans. So I dont see the problem in that.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:15 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s frustrating that for all the greatness this album offers, they still allow for some of their worst tendencies: the speedy punker that’ll give Ed a stroke, the syrupy song that should’ve been on a solo album, no regard for production. Just be great. Is that so hard?
They are great. Calm down. Production is the only thing you have on them here.

Running fucking rules. That ending, tight as hell, is lights out.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:17 am
by Strat
Hypnos wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s frustrating that for all the greatness this album offers, they still allow for some of their worst tendencies: the speedy punker that’ll give Ed a stroke, the syrupy song that should’ve been on a solo album, no regard for production. Just be great. Is that so hard?
Yield had the same tropes, spritzy rocker in MFC, and syrupy song aka Wishlist and is unabashedly loved by the fans. So I dont see the problem in that.
Wishlist is not syrupy like Something special. Not even close.

Wishlist is .....subtle. Insecure. Beautiful. Restrained

I love something special, but not even the same thing.

(if that is what your comparison was)

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:17 am
by Hypnos
RockPusher wrote:Closers ranking:

All or None
Release
Indifference
Setting Sun
Parting Ways
Around the Bend
All those Yesterdays
Inside Job
River Cross
The End
Future Days

If we include Immortality, it probably slots between All or None and Release. I think Setting Sun may rise on this list.
Stupid Mop is miles better than FD.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:17 am
by RockPusher
Hypnos wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s frustrating that for all the greatness this album offers, they still allow for some of their worst tendencies: the speedy punker that’ll give Ed a stroke, the syrupy song that should’ve been on a solo album, no regard for production. Just be great. Is that so hard?
Yield had the same tropes, spritzy rocker in MFC, and syrupy song aka Wishlist and is unabashedly loved by the fans. So I dont see the problem in that.
I was listening to Yield earlier today. It feels like a spiritual sibling to this album.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:19 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s frustrating that for all the greatness this album offers, they still allow for some of their worst tendencies: the speedy punker that’ll give Ed a stroke, the syrupy song that should’ve been on a solo album, no regard for production. Just be great. Is that so hard?
They are great. Calm down. Production is the only thing you have on them here.

Running fucking rules. That ending, tight as hell, is lights out.
Settle down

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:20 am
by Arthur Morgan
Tj wrote:I am thinking it's not Dark Matter as we thing of in physics, but dark matter as when you say "it's a dark matter, but we need to talk about blank. I think this is rock opera.

You might not be wrong about like a quasi concept album.

https://youtu.be/yEi74Kq65iw?si=KKKOGsxgKGd6Scqb

Link to the Ed interview from today at time stamp 7:40 the interviewer states that she loves the album because it takes her on a journey. His response is long but at the 9:30 mark he specifically says the only trick to sequencing this record was “telling the story, if there is one”

So, he uses the word “story” in relation to the sequencing of the songs. That is fascinating to me! I am going to have to closely read the lyrics to see if there is a narrative.

SOF and Setting Sun both mention setting suns. So he is possibly connecting the first and last song by using the same imagery.


And of course I may just be reading way too far and am embarrassing myself.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:20 am
by dad
Strat wrote:
dad wrote:I love this stupid band, and it's pretty great how much joy they still bring me after thirty years.

I'm also glad there's this little corner of the internet where I can share with others who love them just as much.
I love hearing this from you. As one of the posters on this board who are mostly cold on PJ the last however many years, btu has such great taste in music that i admire, just melts my heart you are enjoying this.

And this is not uncommon from people on this board.

That is amazing.
you’ve got great taste in music as well, my dude.

fwiw I loved (still do) Gigaton. It’s only LB I can’t get into.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri April 19, 2024 2:21 am
by Hypnos
Strat wrote:
Hypnos wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s frustrating that for all the greatness this album offers, they still allow for some of their worst tendencies: the speedy punker that’ll give Ed a stroke, the syrupy song that should’ve been on a solo album, no regard for production. Just be great. Is that so hard?
Yield had the same tropes, spritzy rocker in MFC, and syrupy song aka Wishlist and is unabashedly loved by the fans. So I dont see the problem in that.
Wishlist is not syrupy like Something special. Not even close.

Wishlist is .....subtle. Insecure. Beautiful. Restrained

I love something special, but not even the same thing.

(if that is what your comparison was)
We all love Wishlist, but lets not pretend is not cheesy af.