Red Mosquito

blueviper wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Exactly. There was never any indication that Luke would act that way in that situation, even for a moment. In fact, when faced with a far more dangerous situation and a villain that had already committed atrocities, he still saw the good in that villain and chose not to kill him. And on top of that, his actions were vindicated, thus instilling this belief in him even further. There is absolutely no reason Luke would decide to kill kylo except the writers suck.

This is a textbook example of what you call "acting out of character" and all the flowery voiceover in the world can't help that.

Yeah, I don't know if Luke would actually consider killing Ben. It just doesn't seem in his character. I would assume up until that point training new Jedi was going pretty well. I would like to think that Luke wouldn't think about killing him, but maybe if he was seeing this dark side flare up, to maybe coax Ben into not becoming a Jedi, or somehow trapping him in mundane chores/tasks to keep him away from training, or even isolating him. Ben, sensing this exclusion, grows angry and decides to split. I dunno.

I really dislike the flashbacks, only because (in my opinion) SW works better being a straight forward, linear story. It makes it more epic. Flashbacks feel too TV-ish.

tree_ wrote:I'm still having trouble with ghost force lightning. Did anybody have a good reason for this yet? Why is this the first time we're seeing it in the SW universe?

tree_ wrote:Why did Yoda suddenly show up here? Why didn't he show up and help Luke before, during his downward spiral over 30 years? Apparently all Yoda needed was a sentence or two to make him give a shit again.

Anders wrote:

blueviper wrote:

Anders wrote:

blueviper wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Name your five things you loved about this movie. This is a test.

I’ll wakt.

5. Porgs

aw man, Porgs are cool!

tree_ wrote:Has anybody had a good counterargument to the stupidity of the whole Holdo/Poe conflict? She says "Hope is like the sun. If you only believe in it when you can see it, you'll never make it through the night"... so she's basically saying, "Poe, you need to listen to me and follow orders even if it looks like I'm completely incompetent and letting everyone die." What kind of lesson is this? Blindly follow authority?

Poe should've taken over as Admiral and started kicking ass at this point. More wasted potential for good storytelling.

tree_ wrote:The timing of that 'iron that looks like a transport' joke is really bizarre... considering it takes place directly after the scene in which a mutiny takes place to save the lives of the resistance. Jarring tonal shift. Seems like something outta Space Balls.

durdencommatyler wrote:

tree_ wrote:I'm still having trouble with ghost force lightning. Did anybody have a good reason for this yet? Why is this the first time we're seeing it in the SW universe?

The reason is that there are always new powers/strategies being explored. It's the first time we see it because it's the first time we see it. Maybe it's the first time it's ever happened. Why does that bother you? Wouldn't the first time we see it bother you no matter what? If Yoda had done it in Return of the Jedi, would you have been bothered and wondered why we'd never seen it before? There is a first time for everything. And I like that we keep expanding the mythology in such ways, personally.

blueviper wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Exactly. There was never any indication that Luke would act that way in that situation, even for a moment. In fact, when faced with a far more dangerous situation and a villain that had already committed atrocities, he still saw the good in that villain and chose not to kill him. And on top of that, his actions were vindicated, thus instilling this belief in him even further. There is absolutely no reason Luke would decide to kill kylo except the writers suck.

This is a textbook example of what you call "acting out of character" and all the flowery voiceover in the world can't help that.

Yeah, I don't know if Luke would actually consider killing Ben. It just doesn't seem in his character. I would assume up until that point training new Jedi was going pretty well. I would like to think that Luke wouldn't think about killing him, but maybe if he was seeing this dark side flare up, to maybe coax Ben into not becoming a Jedi, or somehow trapping him in mundane chores/tasks to keep him away from training, or even isolating him. Ben, sensing this exclusion, grows angry and decides to split. I dunno.

I really dislike the flashbacks, only because (in my opinion) SW works better being a straight forward, linear story. It makes it more epic. Flashbacks feel too TV-ish.

tree_ wrote:Rey saying "I can feel the good in you" to Kylo is basically plagiarism from the OT. It is unearned in this movie and it feels poached. I don't know why Rey believes in Kylo... they do a poor job of getting there. It might make more sense if Luke were the one who were trying to turn him. That may feel more earned. But we don't like that old grump anymore...