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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Sun January 03, 2016 11:06 pm
by McParadigm
It really was nice of them to make this movie, so we could have a 'new pearl jam album' thread without having to listen to a new pearl jam album.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Sun January 03, 2016 11:26 pm
by Mecca
McParadigm wrote:It really was nice of them to make this movie, so we could have a 'new pearl jam album' thread without having to listen to a new pearl jam album.
now all we need is the equivalent of the wealthy eddie vedder meme

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Sun January 03, 2016 11:34 pm
by spike
Is the e-bow rock's version of a lightsaber?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Sun January 03, 2016 11:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
Star Wars sucks now

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 12:00 am
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:
spike wrote:Is the e-bow rock's version of a lightsaber?
Ed's post-2005 annunciation = force push.
*jar jar

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 12:05 am
by E.H. Ruddock
B wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Strat wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
Strat wrote:Where the hell did some of you idiots get that only Jedi's could hold a lightsaber?
was general grievous a jedi knight?
No.
He was just pure badass
"General Grievous will run and hide as he always does. He is a coward." - Mace Windu
Samuel Jackson doesn't even have a high midichlorian count

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 2:14 am
by Mecca
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
B wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Strat wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
Strat wrote:Where the hell did some of you idiots get that only Jedi's could hold a lightsaber?
was general grievous a jedi knight?
No.
He was just pure badass
"General Grievous will run and hide as he always does. He is a coward." - Mace Windu
Samuel Jackson doesn't even have a high midichlorian count
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 7:46 am
by Got Some
B wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Strat wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
Strat wrote:Where the hell did some of you idiots get that only Jedi's could hold a lightsaber?
was general grievous a jedi knight?
No.
He was just pure badass
"General Grievous will run and hide as he always does. He is a coward." - Mace Windu

General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber


It's not that Finn can use a lightsaber it's how can he remotely compete with Ren who has been trained on how to use it. If I picked up a samurai sword and charged a samurai I'd last 3 seconds.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 8:13 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Got Some wrote:
B wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Strat wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
Strat wrote:Where the hell did some of you idiots get that only Jedi's could hold a lightsaber?
was general grievous a jedi knight?
No.
He was just pure badass
"General Grievous will run and hide as he always does. He is a coward." - Mace Windu

General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber


It's not that Finn can use a lightsaber it's how can he remotely compete with Ren who has been trained on how to use it.
I'm guessing that the first order troopers have some kind of melee training. It's likely transferable to a light saber.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 11:40 am
by stip
Plus Ren was dying from Chewie's bow caster shot (whose power was a running point throughout the movie) and is largely toying with Finn until Finn gets a hit in. Then he ends it.

On that podcast dime linked there is a really interesting discussion on how unnerved Ren is after the Rey interrogation and how he's off his game for the remainder of the movie - that the Ren they fight at the end is not the one we see at the beginning

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 11:56 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
stip wrote:Plus Ren was dying from Chewie's bow caster shot (whose power was a running point throughout the movie) is largely toying with Finn until Finn gets a hit in. Then he ends it.

On that podcast dime linked there is a really interesting discussion on how unnerved Ren is after the Rey interrogation and how he's off his game for the remainder of the movie - that the Ren they fight at the end is not the one we see at the beginning
The force is tied very closely with the users's emotions. I agree, it's likely that Ren was extremely rattled, causing him to lose focus of his force powers.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 12:50 pm
by CopperTom
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Got Some wrote:
B wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Strat wrote:
dprival78 wrote:
Strat wrote:Where the hell did some of you idiots get that only Jedi's could hold a lightsaber?
was general grievous a jedi knight?
No.
He was just pure badass
"General Grievous will run and hide as he always does. He is a coward." - Mace Windu

General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber


It's not that Finn can use a lightsaber it's how can he remotely compete with Ren who has been trained on how to use it.
I'm guessing that the first order troopers have some kind of melee training. It's likely transferable to a light saber.

Image
Yes, this was confirmed by the novel.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 1:38 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Got Some wrote: General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 1:43 pm
by Kaius
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Got Some wrote: General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber
Image
He somehow manages to not cut off his bottom arms with his top arms. Skillz.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 1:50 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Kaius wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Got Some wrote: General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber
Image
He somehow manages to not cut off his bottom arms with his top arms. Skillz.
Let's not forget he acquired those light sabers by killing Jedi. Skillz.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 1:56 pm
by tommymtcom
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Kaius wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Got Some wrote: General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber
Image
He somehow manages to not cut off his bottom arms with his top arms. Skillz.
Let's not forget he acquired those light sabers by killing Jedi. Skillz.
Wouldn't those skills just be programmed in?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 1:56 pm
by Simple Torture
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Kaius wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Got Some wrote: General grievous was trained to use a lightsaber
Image
He somehow manages to not cut off his bottom arms with his top arms. Skillz.
Let's not forget he acquired those light sabers by killing Jedi. Skillz.
Did he suck out their brains like the brain bug in Starship Troopers?

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 4:14 pm
by jwfocker
stip wrote:Another plus for her being a Kenobi is that it enables the Kenobi v Skywalker battle to last 3 generations, and as long as we're on the same long story arc I like that kind of symmetry.

Yep. This is what I've been saying. If the kenobi line is alive in Rey it would add a lot more potency to the story than the more straight forward theory of a skywalker vs skywalker story line. Plus I really like that symmetry as well.

JJ and Kasdan have said this trilogy is about the skywalker line and you can't have that without kenobi in my opinion.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 4:40 pm
by Strat
Guys, i have it figured out who Rey is.
Spoiler: show
She is the daughter of Maz Kanata and Chewbacca.
Done. Next trilogy!

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Mon January 04, 2016 4:49 pm
by McParadigm
Apparently "Luke I am your father" is the only reason anybody liked the original trilogy at all, based on how obsessed everyone is with establishing Rey's family line.

Then again, Luke is apparently on the planet Ahchoo or something, so you all MIGHT have just seen a Spaceballs sequel and not realized it.